3Rivers Archery


The Trad Gang Digital Market












Contribute to Trad Gang and Access the Classifieds!

Become a Trad Gang Sponsor!

Traditional Archery for Bowhunters




RIGHT HAND BOWS CLASSIFIEDS

LEFT HAND BOWS CLASSIFIEDS

TRAD GANG CLASSIFIEDS ACCESS


Main Menu

D97 & B55 Experience

Started by BAbassangler, December 19, 2025, 03:08:40 PM

Previous topic - Next topic

Arctic Hunter, WMS, CAPTJJ, glenbo, BAbassangler, McDave, Trenton G., Razorbak, Mo_coon-catcher, 1Trapper, fisherick, 58WINTERS and 16 Guests are viewing this topic.

BAbassangler

What is your estimation for change in point weight, in switching from B55 to D97?  The reason I ask is my setup flies great but a little quicker would be nice.  45#, 29 3/4" 500's with 300 total PW, 565gr.
I pity da'fool...that rejects Christ.

62" ILF, 40# Bosen recurve limbs on 19" Deerseeker riser
62" ILF, 45# Bosen longbow limbs on 17" Discovery riser
66" Kodiak Special 38#

Phil Magistro

You didn't say what kind of bow. From my ASLs there is a very modest gain between D97 and B55. My recurves showed a little more gain for D97 but I have never seen a gain of 8-10 fps when changing.

I've recently started shooting B50 from my longbows and don't worry about few fps.
"I have the simplest tastes. I am always satisfied with the best."    - Oscar Wilde

BAbassangler

It's a modern ILF R/D.  Everything I come across puts in terms of "a few FPS". What do you think that is, 25 grains, 50 grains?  Thanks for your input.
I pity da'fool...that rejects Christ.

62" ILF, 40# Bosen recurve limbs on 19" Deerseeker riser
62" ILF, 45# Bosen longbow limbs on 17" Discovery riser
66" Kodiak Special 38#

McDave

I don't understand your question, because changing strings has no correlation to change in point weight, unless you define one. For example is your question, "how much would I need to increase point weight to offset the speed increase from changing from B55 to D97?"  My guess is about 25 grains.  Other correlations are possible, but you would have to define the correlation you want to make before anyone could comment on it.
TGMM Family of the Bow

Not all those who wander are lost, some are just looking for lost arrows.  Tolkien (in part)

BAbassangler

Sorry to confuse. I suppose I assumed we were all starting with a perfect bareshaft, and when going to a faster or slower string, what would be the new point weight to keep the same perfect bareshaft. Does this help?
I pity da'fool...that rejects Christ.

62" ILF, 40# Bosen recurve limbs on 19" Deerseeker riser
62" ILF, 45# Bosen longbow limbs on 17" Discovery riser
66" Kodiak Special 38#

McDave

#5
Quote from: BAbassangler on December 19, 2025, 08:30:17 PMSorry to confuse. I suppose I assumed we were all starting with a perfect bareshaft, and when going to a faster or slower string, what would be the new point weight to keep the same perfect bareshaft. Does this help?

Yes, thank you for clarifying. I understand the question now. The most common figure I hear is that a change of strings from B55 to D97 will increase arrow velocity about 4-5 fps. To put this into perspective, this is similar to the increase in arrow velocity from going from a static release to a dynamic release, or perhaps from a longbow to a recurve.  Of course this will vary depending on individual circumstances.  However, the change in arrow velocity is often enough to require a change in arrow tuning, which includes point weight.

The problem is that the effect on tuning from a change in point weight depends on where you're starting from. My experience is that the effect of a change in point weight is more proportional than absolute. For example a 10 grain change in point weight makes a noticeable difference in tuning if you're starting in tune with a 100 grain point. A 10 grain change in point weight makes a negligible difference in tuning if you're starting in tune with a 200 grain point. Probably you would have to change point weight by 20 grains to get the same difference in tuning if you're starting in tune with a 200 grain point, but I'm not sure if the relationship is directly proportional, just that it requires more of a change as the starting weight increases.

So it's difficult to answer your question, because the answer changes depending where you're starting from.
TGMM Family of the Bow

Not all those who wander are lost, some are just looking for lost arrows.  Tolkien (in part)

BAbassangler

Ahaaaa...so it's like adding a tsp of salt to a cup of soup vs. a crockpot. Gotcha; maybe I'll plug some numbers into the spine calculator and see what change in point weight give me the "few feet per second" everyone reports, and do a little comparison experiment when I get a D97 string together. Also give me an excuse to break out my new-in-box chrono that's been sitting in storage since covid.
I pity da'fool...that rejects Christ.

62" ILF, 40# Bosen recurve limbs on 19" Deerseeker riser
62" ILF, 45# Bosen longbow limbs on 17" Discovery riser
66" Kodiak Special 38#


Contact Us | Trad Gang.com © | User Agreement
Copyright 2003 thru 2025 ~ Trad Gang.com ©