Can you guys pro con this for me?  I shoot a montana and that's all I know when it comes to longbows.

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If you want to try a Hill I would look for a used one and give it a go. They are not for everyone but I like the few that I have. Light in the hand, very quiet and just fun to shoot.

X2 what Ron said.   I own two Hill's, ( Big 5/ 65# & Wesley Special/ 70#), and to me, they are a shooting machines.  Takes a bit of getting used to the correct grip.    I like the straight Hill grips myself.

Deno

Do this and you may like them.  Don't do this and you may not.  Note, you don't have to shoot as fast as John right off the bat and you can even hold and aim for a bit if fast releasing is foreign to you. 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T4kIpsoi6oY

You can shoot that Montana with the Schulz methods, the  shape of the Montana grip may add a half inch or so to your draw length, compared to the saddle or straight gripped Hill style bows. Your draw length is what it is, some folks get themselves in a tizzy targeting draw lengths.  While out pheasant hunting this year with shoot away but sharp broad heads in my quiver, i proved to myself once again that a 42 @ 26 ASL will shoot a 27" bop wood arrow straight through an Iowa whitetail.  My go to deer hunting bows are a duo shelf 50@26 JD Berry and a 55@26 duo shelf Sunset Hill.  The 42 pound bow was a 51 pound Hill Big Five before I attacked it with a rasp, files and sandpaper, in an attempt to get the draw low enough for my wife.  remember to add 5pounds to the arrow spine minimum for a modern string.  I personally shoot quite a bit above the dynamic charts with my duo shooters, that spine reduction do to being outside of center does not seem to apply with my cedar and Surewood arrows, they fly online and fly straight and steady.  If you prefer to shoot with straight armed recurve form, you may like a new recurve better.

I have 5 bows from HHA and 2 from NM. I shoot them about 95% of the time. I like the lightness in the hand and the smoothness I feel. Both straight and slightly dished grips suit me. I have a short 25" draw length but prefer 68" length; however, a shorter bow may be more efficient. I have found them to accept a range of spine weights (wooden arrows) well. I use a low grip and have never had problems with hand shock, except when I experimented a higher grip. That did not work for me, and I wound up with tendonitis in the thumb of my bow hand. I have shot the Montana but have never owned one. I have no real criticism of it, just a preference for the Hill style.

Maybe a bear patriot?

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A friend of mine shoots a Bear Patriot.  I like it better than most Bear recurves, it is a good bow, but i prefer what I can get out of ASLs for controlled speed and i believe that ASLs are more forgiving of my rather hard release.  It all kind of depends on how you want to shoot.  One can force any bow to shoot in a variety of ways, but each individuals chosen shooting style will have one kind of bow that works better than another.  For example, I could never shoot one of my old target bows like I shoot Hill style, nor would i want to.  Shooting a Hill style bow can be shot with a static style, that style suits many recurves very well, but it robs a Hill style bow of many of its advantages.

pavan, p.m. sent.

Hills aren't for me!! I shoot very high wrist, and my dental insurance isn't good enough to cover the damage!!!! [emoji1787][emoji1787][emoji1787][emoji1787]

Like said above, different strokes for different folks! Some guys love hill bows, and some do not! The only way to know what side of that fence you are on is to try one for yourself and see!

Bisch


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You pulling the string back with your teeth?

Quote from: pavan on April 25, 2019, 09:45:07 PM
You pulling the string back with your teeth?

Nope!!! But the shock rattles my teeth so bad, they start to falling out!!! 

I'll just stick with my RD longbows and recurves that I don't have that issue with!

Bisch

Must be old Pearsons, try a new one you may be surprised.  Mine don't have any more shock than my Robertsons.  Maybe my Robertsons kick.