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2 blade vs 3 blade and 3/4 plywood

Started by J.Nordwell, March 30, 2008, 07:55:00 PM

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J.Nordwell

Well today I was shooting both of my broadhead setups. 200 gr snuffers and 200 gr magnus 2 blade 1 1/2 dia. Well I missed the target twice and went into the plywood back stop. Now people say that 2 blades will go in further but they didn't they went about the same almost even with the back side of the blade to the plywood. My setup is a BW PMA 57-58 lbs at my draw and a 640 gr arrow. Might use the snuffer for elk and deer with the results I got today. Any thoughts?
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BobW

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J.Nordwell

Forgot to mention shots were at 20 yards.
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ishiwannabe

Were they both solid hits or did one or both deflect a bit? I have always heard that 2 blades penetrate better....???
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J.Nordwell

Both were clean misses on the target clean hits on the plywood. I guess I was thinking like a logger on both of those shots!! lol
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JL

I always thought the snuffers and woodmans were good heads. I have never had a chance to use them as I have soooo many 2 blade heads that I may not have a need to ever buy broadheads again. Found some heads on clearance (three heads in a pack for $1, better then the dollar menu at McDondald's!) and they take care of business. I think prefect arrow flight has everything to due with penetration. Arrow placement is paramount also. Sounds like your setup will be great for Elk! Good Luck on the Elk!

JL
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scriv

I never tried shooting plywood.  We don't have a hunting season for it in Michigan.  Does it taste like chicken or a subtle mesquite like flavor?  Sorry.  Just couldn't help myself.  :D
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beyondmyken

All that tells you is penetration on 3/4 inch plywood is not adequate for a double lung if the elk is wearing plywood body armor ;^)

Hoytman

A sharp cut on contact broadhead in wood ,(or bone) is like splitting wood with a sharp axe. It doesn't work as good as a dull axe, (chisel point). JMO
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sswv

I am and will always be a BIG fan of Snuffers. thanks for sharing your findings.

Mike Burch


NDTerminator

IMO, doesn't mean anything as penetrating through something like plywood isn't a matter of cutting, it's KE imparted by the arrow weight and velocity on impact.

As both arrows weigh the same, were shot from the same bow and at the same distance, I don't find it at all surprising the both penetrated in about the same fashion...

Both are excellent broadheads and will do a job on live critters...
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d. ward

I going to come clean too.I'am also a plywood shooter..I do it a bit more maybe then most guy's.But I'am shooting at the plywood normaly....Ya ya I know...But think of this,if you broadheads won't penatrate 1/2 or 5/8 plywood at 20 yards..You may want to up your poundage before elk season...But what I found on the plywood test was my 50# bow at 20 yards thats with all else equil like arrow weight..It shot all the broadheads I tested in about the same amount.Seemed like I'd reached the limit of penatration from that draw weight maybe ??? bowdoc

bowdude

So what does a field point do on that plywood?

overbo

I've shot 2 elk.One w/ a 160 snuffer and the other w/ a 160 2 blade Ace.Both shots where 30 to 35yrds w/ 60+ lbs.Snuffer head centered the rib cage w/ poor penatration and never fund the elk.The other w/ the Ace,the arro went thru the shoulder blade and centered a rib under the blade and buried under the skin on the opposite side.
The arro weight of the 2 where quite different.The snuffer are was 420grs and the Ace was 560gr.

DeerSpotter

It sure looks like it's easy to get hooked on, speed and weight of an arrow, and also the poundage of the bow.

I have always had to learn to adapt to what I have.  I had a wonderful nice size eight point buck and with that buck was a 180 lb. matriarch doe, the reason I know the weight of the doe, she was taken a week later, by someone else. I had to let them both go, no qualms, no regrets, but I had a 50# John McDonald bow, my limitations(that I disciplined myself to) was 20 yd.,(three years ago) they were both at 35 yd., that was my concentration, now I could've relied on a 50# bow at 35 yd. my arrow weight at that time was 550 gr.  I certainly could have relied on those two things, but I have determined that hunting with a traditional bow, is about getting as close to the game as possible.  If I have to wait, that's part of the disciplined.  I think sometimes we can overtest something, but the real test, is what we are made out of, not our bows and arrows.

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MW

Good point BowDude.

My experience is that the penetration with a field point on plywood is the same all other things being equal.

The problem is that the plywood here in Utah leaves a weak blood trail and you need as many cutting edges as possible.
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Hoytman

QuoteOriginally posted by NDTerminator:
IMO, doesn't mean anything as penetrating through something like plywood
Plywood is not all that unlike a rib bone or shoulder blade on a large animal. If I couldn't put a broadhead through plywood, I wouldn't consider using it for elk etc. JMO
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