no Mr. Hill and all my Hill brothers are for there help, mr. steen, mr. wesley.

Well my annual deer hunting leave starts tomorrow, can't wait to get out with Hill bow, Hill quiver and cedars arrows to chase the elusive whitetail (and anything else that's in season).

The only question:

Schulz Granpa or HH Half Breed?

Thanks to all for getting me hooked on these bows!

3Feathers, I in your sig-line that you have a few 66" Hills as well as a 62". You and I have similar draw lengths. I have an actual DL of 25.5"-26" with the straight-gripped Hills. How much, and what kind of, difference do you feel between the 66"'s and the 62"? I'm thinking of going shorter on my next one. Right now both of mine are 66" with mild backset. What do you think?

Thanks for your input; as well as anyone else's.

Here's a Northern Mist Hill style bow journey this season... I started the season missing a chip shot at a doe, and a small buck in Michigan...just warming up, because I made a good shot on a decent buck.  Why I get nervous on does, and not bucks, I'll never know. The does seem a lot more wary, and I am starting to think they are an amazing trophy when you shoot a large, old doe. This was from a treestand, about 14 yds, quartering away and the arrow from the 50# NM Classic passed through both lungs.  I posted the broadhead story on another thread, but I must say, the Grizzly 170gr razor sharp made an amazing blood trail.

Well done, Overspined! I'm trying to fill my MI bow tag with a Hill-style this year too.

I also agree on the remark about the old does. I'm almost relieved to see a buck alone.

I'd be ecstatic if I was able to harvest a buck like that.

     

A most-excellent buck taken with a most-excellent longbow and broadhead combination!

Way to go Matt!

Shoot straight, Shinken

 

Then I head to Illinois. I see some deer, and I'm hunting with the wheelie bow guys. I shot with them on the block target, and I think they were unimpressed, and and felt sorry for me. That's okay, I don't shoot well in front of other people, like a lot of archers I know.  A few more shots after they went inside, and I was good to go. Nobody shot a deer that weekend, or took a shot.  

The next week, I'm ready to go, and happen to be alone on the property...prime time, and now I am familiar with the stand locations, most of which are terrible for a trad bow.  The first morning, Nov 7, I see a doe and fawn at 10 am, and decide to take a risk.  There are almost no locations for a N wind, so I sit right by a trail where deer will hopefully travel downwind of me, but close enough they won't wind me at about 15 yds.  I am in my climber stand, I needed to make that adjustment for things to work and get right on top of them.

I sleep the day away, only awakening to the Boon and Crocket squirrels that keep waking me up. Shortly after 4 pm, I hear a funny sounding squirrel that turns out to be a really nice buck at 15 yds, on that trail, directly downwind and behind me.  Like a lot of guys here, I try to play the wind and keep it simple. Wool, all the way. He doesn't smell me and continues on, passing on my left side.

When he started walking, I grab my bow off the hook, an arrow from the GFA quiver, and frantically, but smoothly, nock an arrow. I ready for the shot, but a moment too late as he passes through the first opening at 17 yds. I couldn't bear to rush the shot. Ohhhh, so close, and perfect.  Ugh.

He approaches the second gap, and as he passes through I see my arrow meet his shoulder, I have no idea how far he is.  I have my fingers crossed and all my focus in on that animal, as if there is nothing else in my world at that time.

He picks up the pace and travels 12 yds, where he stops with my arrow hanging out of the side of him, hanging as if I didn't get through the shoulder.  I thought I hit a bit high and forward, but I have confidence...barely.

He looks around, 5-10 seconds of looking around, he has no idea what happened, didn't hear the bow, and only felt the arrow.  He trots into the thicket, and disappears.  I shoot a 50# bow, and 615 gr arrows(total wt), grizzly 170 gr.

I doubt my shot, but I can hear him choking in the thicket for about 2 minutes.  Then, silence.  No running, moving, falling...nothing.

30 long minutes I sit.  I quietly back out for the night and am afraid to pursue him and jump him, as I think I only got one lung.

I thought of going back in, but Eric (typical2) said he never loses deer if he leaves them overnight on a questionable hit.  I took his advice.

I wake up at 3 AM to go find him.  I wander into the thicket and jump several deer.  My flashlight beam shines a barred owl perched on a stick 10 yds away, I was interrupting his hunting.  I wondered, what was the likelihood of deer bedding by a dead deer...I was tense.  I wander to where the deer were bedded and suddenly I see a smatter of blood, my heart jumps, and then I see him.

I back track the blood trail, and wonder why I questioned the shot....

 
 
And finally...
 

Matt...that's pretty!

Wow, that's why I check for a blood trail before backing out. If I saw that, I'd be on it as soon as possible. I like to get them opened up as quickly as I can and get the hide off and the carcass cooling.

Anyway, congrats on a nice shot at a nice buck. I'm still trying to wait out these east/southeast winds we keep having. I don't really have a good spot for that kind of wind.    

And.........

The night I got to the trailer, one of the boys that works the dairy farm next door approached me. I told him I hit one, and he asked me if it was with that longbow I shoot. I nodded.  He said with a smile that those guys told him not to worry, that I would never kill a deer out there with a longbow.

I text a picture of the deer to one of my hunting partners, and the reply was one of both excitement, and disbelief.  I had killed the biggest deer they had trail cam pics of on the property!

35 yds is about how far he went, no farther.  I paced off the distance and figure 25-28 yds on the shot. I know it's not a competition, and we can't pick which deer happens to walk by at any given time, but I am still in awe at this beautiful animal I was lucky enough to encounter and take with Hill style equipment. We don't get them all, and I've missed bigger! This was a 5 yr old buck.
 
 
 

Very nice! and a great story

Wow!!! one Helluva buck buddy!

Bob.

Whoooaaa, nice Buck Matt    

Well done my friend!

Eric

I was looking at Overspined's pics again, especially the blood trail.  It got me to thinking about my Shrew Hill bow.  The little buck I shot I used a 580 grain arrow and single bevel heads ( Concords 145 grain ) shot at about 55 pounds.  The buck dropped as I shot through the shoulder and into the neck.  Well, as I finish the canning of the meat this evening I looked at the spine and dug out my head.  The spine was severed in two and the head actually was poking out the other side of the spine about 1/4 inch.  I mean the meat of the spine with the spinal column ... completely severed.  Man that is some power ... the head is still rather sharp by the way.  

It is no wonder why Overspined got such a wicked blood trail and such great penetration.  These Hill bows really pack a punch!!

Bob.

Outstanding Buck overspined.  That is a beautiful deer, with wonderful symmetry.  My father scores for Buckmaster magazine and  seeing a lot of antlers come thru our house when I was younger, Im here to tell you that rates with some of the best.  Even the 160" on  the wall right now.  Great job, and also I think someone had a hole in the bottom of their red paint in your woods

Thanks guys, we don't all share the misses, but I've missed them, and killed them as much as anyone.  The icing on the cake is that I've killed my biggest ones with the Hill bow.  I had a long car ride with a fellow wheelie bow hunter, and once we laughed at some of my stories about the misses, he spills the beans.  Bow hunters miss a lot of animals....period.  He is hard core and had plenty of stories of his own about the big ones that get away.  If I couldn't laugh about it, I'd use a gun!    

Great buck!

Congrats.