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HH bug got me ... Part One!

Started by longbowben, January 07, 2011, 01:08:00 PM

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kestimator

The mods need to "lock" this thread down....
I'm sure that I'm not the only recovering Hill-A-Holic that needs relief from all of these fun posts....
If I see much more...I know that I'll break down and start Hill-ing again....
Have Mercy!!!!  :)  LOL!!!!
Have a nice day!
Kevin

Ben Maher

Kevin ,
Mate ...
you know you want too .......
" All that is gold does not glitter , not all those who wander are lost "
J.R.R TOLKIEN

Mudd

I'm not a recovering "Hill-A-Holic", I am relishing every moment of my addiction.

Simply don't wanna get over it.    :bigsmyl:

  :wavey:    :archer:
Trying to make a difference
Psalm 37:4
Roy L "Mudd" Williams
TGMM- Family Of The Bow
Archery isn't something I do, it's who I am!
The road to "Sherwood" makes for an awesome journey.

Nate Steen .

Mudd has a surprise coming!   :clapper:    ;)  

Wonder what it could be.....hhhmmm  something befitting a merry man of Sherwood.....

Mudd

Trying to make a difference
Psalm 37:4
Roy L "Mudd" Williams
TGMM- Family Of The Bow
Archery isn't something I do, it's who I am!
The road to "Sherwood" makes for an awesome journey.

Ray_G

Looking forward to seeing photos of Mudd sporting his new _______     :wavey:
Sunset Hill 64" 54# @ 26"  "Destiny"

B.H.A.

MikeNova

I bet its a super nice back quiver. After taxes I may have to place an order too. Mudd did youever see the pic of the alligator armguard nate made me. Its a good one!

ChrisM

I didn't know there were gators in Idaho!
Gods greatest command:  Love your neighbor as you love yourself.

Bud B.

I used the Hill style some today. After adjusting the strap to get the base to sit near my right elbow, I think I might be able to get the hang of it.





I got'em both oiled up and ready to go.





Archery season ends soon here in NC. Then the thundersticks take over. Hopefully I'll get some field time in and see how it goes.
TGMM Family of the Bow >>>>---------->

"You can learn more about deer hunting with a bow and arrow in a week, than a gun hunter might learn all his life." ----- Fred Bear

30coupe

Bud, those look nice, but you put the straps on the wrong side.    ;)

Just kidding. What did you use for leather? I've been looking into building my next one in the true Hill style this time. I found a place online that sells English bridle leather, which is what Nate recommends. Looks like you've got them bending nicely.

Russ
Kanati 58" 44# @ 28" Green glass on a green riser
Bear Kodiak Magnum 52" 45# @ 28"
Bodnik Slick Stick longbow 58" 40# @ 28"
Bodnik Kiowa 52" 45# @ 28"
Kanati 58" 46# @ 28" R.I.P (2007-2015)
Self-made Silk backed Hickory Board bow 67" 49# @ 28"
Bear Black Bear 60" 45# @28"
NRA Life Member

30coupe

Oops. Don't know how the double post thing happened.

  :knothead:
 
Russ
Kanati 58" 44# @ 28" Green glass on a green riser
Bear Kodiak Magnum 52" 45# @ 28"
Bodnik Slick Stick longbow 58" 40# @ 28"
Bodnik Kiowa 52" 45# @ 28"
Kanati 58" 46# @ 28" R.I.P (2007-2015)
Self-made Silk backed Hickory Board bow 67" 49# @ 28"
Bear Black Bear 60" 45# @28"
NRA Life Member

Bud B.

I use Zack White Leather in Ramseur, NC. It's about 15ish miles from my house. It's 6-7oz vegetable tanned leather. Oiled down with Olive oil. Once it's broken in I have some leather conditioner I'll rub on it.

Bridle leather is nicer, but you'll pay for it. The piece of leather I made both of those quivers from was less than $40. One piece cut from it was 26" x 20". The other piece was 26" x 18". I have lots of scrap left over and used the same leather for the base and straps. I doubled up the leather on the bottom to keep BHs from poking thru eventually. Barring my time I have less than $50 in both quivers.

google Zack White Leather and cruise their site and compare. They have Herman Oak leather also...but it is premier leather and high quality and obviously more expensive. If your starting out, try the veg tan first. It's good leather and will last a looong time if cared for properly.

I really wanted to try out a true Hill style quiver but couldn't part with the $ just to have it not work out. This way, if it doesn't work out, I'll pass it along to someone who can give it a go and not be out a whole lot of funds.
TGMM Family of the Bow >>>>---------->

"You can learn more about deer hunting with a bow and arrow in a week, than a gun hunter might learn all his life." ----- Fred Bear

Nate Steen .

one thing about veg tan leather for quivers....if it is of decent weight (around 8 oz), over time it will tend to get stiff if not oiled like crazy.....latigo and bridle leather will stay more supple.  English bridle won't stain clothing and stays more supple in cold weather than latigo.  yeah, you pay for it, but you only need one in your lifetime.....well, maybe two if you are using it over 30 or 40 years

Nate Steen .

Bud,  most newbie backquiver guys have the quiver adjusted too high on the back.  You shouldn't be able to reach the arrow nock unless you bump up the quiver with your bowhand or bowarm elbow.  

The process is this:  when reaching for an arrow, both arms go back by squeezing the shoulder blades together....one hand reaching for the nock, other hand bumping up the quiver.  Choreographed movement.  Then after grabbing the nock, both hands move forward, one drawing out the arrow, the other bringing the bow into play.  The physical weight of the quiver will let it slide back into position, which helps the arrow clear leather easier.  A wide quiver allows you to pull the arrow out on an angle (which is easier) unlike a narrow tube quiver which forces you to draw the arrow straight out the end and alot of guys don't have arms long enough for that.

Bud B.

QuoteOriginally posted by sunset hill:
Bud,  most newbie backquiver guys have the quiver adjusted too high on the back.  You shouldn't be able to reach the arrow nock unless you bump up the quiver with your bowhand or bowarm elbow.  ...
That's what I'm working on right now. Trying to get a bump and be able to reach it.

In some of Hill's old photos I noticed how his strap looked to go right under his armpit or very close. Schultz too. It looked to me to be too tight, but I'm guessing it's to help it be close to the elbow.

It's a work in progress, but today's session was promising. I'm cautiously optimistic.  :)





TGMM Family of the Bow >>>>---------->

"You can learn more about deer hunting with a bow and arrow in a week, than a gun hunter might learn all his life." ----- Fred Bear

Bud B.

I did manage to get out in the tree stand for a while.

No deer, but the fall colors are creeping in around here.

This is a small hickory I topped last year to hide behind. I use some of the clipped branches to hang my back quiver on it. I balanced the Dave Johnson along the top and took a cell phone pic.

We're about 25' up.

 
TGMM Family of the Bow >>>>---------->

"You can learn more about deer hunting with a bow and arrow in a week, than a gun hunter might learn all his life." ----- Fred Bear

Charlie Lamb

I'm leaving tomorrow on a trip up north with KennyM near Kirksville, Mo.

It should be a great hunt and I always look forward to this hunt with a lot of anticipation. All I have to do is pack my case and clean up a couple of issues with the printer of my book and I'm ready. Books should be ready to ship when I get back.

I gave my fiberglass backed bow "Stubby" his place in the sun on my last trip to Kansas with Tracy Potter. Stubby did just fine for me.
 
 

This time "Blondie" is in the bull pen. She's already been blooded on spring turkeys so I know she knows the drill.  
   

I really want a big doe or two for the freezer so that should keep me occupied while I wait for one of the lunker bucks that cruise the property.
Hunt Sharp

Charlie

Mudd

"Sic'em" Charlie!!

Thanks for sharing your pictures with us,I never tire of seeing them.

I have my doubts that you have any bows that aren't well trained and remain "on the ready" to be called up at a moments notice.

God bless,Mudd    :archer:
Trying to make a difference
Psalm 37:4
Roy L "Mudd" Williams
TGMM- Family Of The Bow
Archery isn't something I do, it's who I am!
The road to "Sherwood" makes for an awesome journey.

David Mitchell

I guess to each his own ways...I don't want to have to bump my back quiver to reach an arrow.  My quiver rides just right to gently reach back and grab the nock of my arrow.  I don't like/can't comfortably reach arrows that lay over a good bit off my shoulder.  Older shoulders don't work as smoothly as younger  ones.    :D   My quiver works just great this way, ymmv.   :thumbsup:  There's usually more than one way to skin a cat, as they say.
The years accumulate on old friendships like tree rings, during which time a kind of unspoken care and loyalty accrue between men.

Mudd

David Mitchell~" There's usually more than one way to skin a cat, as they say."

Here is what works for me and it requires very little unnecessary movement.

Mudd's Mudd Flap
 

God bless,Mudd
Trying to make a difference
Psalm 37:4
Roy L "Mudd" Williams
TGMM- Family Of The Bow
Archery isn't something I do, it's who I am!
The road to "Sherwood" makes for an awesome journey.


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