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Best Blunt for squirrels in trees? update page 2

Started by DanielB89, January 25, 2017, 01:15:00 PM

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Red Beastmaster

I have .38 casings on all of my wood flu flu squirrel arrows. I have never stuck one in a tree.
There is no great fun, satisfaction, or joy derived from doing something that's easy.  Coach John Wooden

Longtoke

here is the "nutter" I have been using for carbons, cant comment on if its good for squirrel or not though.


30coupe

QuoteOriginally posted by Bisch:
I like old broadheads! I have had great luck with blunts for rabbits, not so much so with squirrels!

Maybe one of those G5 small game heads would work????

Bisch
The G5s work great, Bisch! They are also great for stumping.
Kanati 58" 44# @ 28" Green glass on a green riser
Bear Kodiak Magnum 52" 45# @ 28"
Bodnik Slick Stick longbow 58" 40# @ 28"
Bodnik Kiowa 52" 45# @ 28"
Kanati 58" 46# @ 28" R.I.P (2007-2015)
Self-made Silk backed Hickory Board bow 67" 49# @ 28"
Bear Black Bear 60" 45# @28"
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Caleb the bow breaker

Cheap ones. LOL!!!!  My hunting areas are decorated with arrows firmly wedged in trees because of squirrels that move like they are in the Matrix.

C
Oh squeaky treestand, how I hate thee!

DanielB89

I have found something I am going to try out for this weekend.  I saw that an 8/32's threaded bolt would screw right in to the insert.  

I checked my options at the local Ace.  This is what I came up with.  3 washers weighs right at 195 grains.  





I am hoping this will suffice.  Beautiful thing is i bought enough to make 12 of them for under $10.
"Blessed is the man who trusts in the LORD And whose trust is the LORD. Jeremiah 17:7

"There is a way which seems right to a man,
But its end is the way of death."  Proverbs 14:12

30coupe

Daniel, I think those would work for bunnies, but squirrels take a lot of killing. I wouldn't count on those doing the trick reliably.
Kanati 58" 44# @ 28" Green glass on a green riser
Bear Kodiak Magnum 52" 45# @ 28"
Bodnik Slick Stick longbow 58" 40# @ 28"
Bodnik Kiowa 52" 45# @ 28"
Kanati 58" 46# @ 28" R.I.P (2007-2015)
Self-made Silk backed Hickory Board bow 67" 49# @ 28"
Bear Black Bear 60" 45# @28"
NRA Life Member

DanielB89

QuoteOriginally posted by 30coupe:
Daniel, I think those would work for bunnies, but squirrels take a lot of killing. I wouldn't count on those doing the trick reliably.
I agree to an extent.  I may end up going to a skinnier washer to cause more blunt for trauma.  But I opted for the quieter one and went out to shoot a target.  It hit like an absolutely sledge hammer!  But, the ultimate judge will be a bushy tail!
"Blessed is the man who trusts in the LORD And whose trust is the LORD. Jeremiah 17:7

"There is a way which seems right to a man,
But its end is the way of death."  Proverbs 14:12

tomsm44

Matt Toms

Flatwoods Custom R/D:  64", 47@28
'66 Kodiak: 60", 55@28
Redwing Hunter:  58", 53@28
Ben Pearson 709 Hunter:  58", 47@28
Ben Pearson 709 Hunter:  58", 42@28
Hoots Recurve:  56", 42@28

Snow Crow

Just an FYI for 8/32" based blunts with carbons:

There will be a weak point in the screw where a portion of it "floats" between the thread and lip of the insert.  This area is prone to bending and also stressing the shaft after hard impacts.  Keep an eye out on this area for evidence of bending/breaking.  Would highly recommend footing carbons for use with these types of blunts.

The reverse nutters (wings facing forward) I use are 2 for 2 one-shot squirrel stoppers...
Wanted:  Crow willing to fly into my arrow.  Blind, deaf and dumb preferred.  Mute a bonus.  One wing would be good.  No legs.  With vertigo...

frank bullitt

Are you hunting Greys or fox?

Fox squirrels here, are tough as wildcats!

Agree with said above, could be tough on the carbon shift behind the point.

Have fun, love hunting squirrels!

ThePushArchery

I personally will be trying the new Cheap Shot plastic broadheads in february. I've been putting a hurting on the squirrels around here since January and always struggle with what arrows to put in my Quiver before I head out. (Which blunt, old broadheads, etc etc)

I think the cheap shots are gonna be the perfect squirrel head. A perfect compromise of broadheads performance and inexpensive per shot.

I'll report back after some field time.

ThePushArchery


ChuckC

Problems with wide heads, as pointed out by several above.  If you hit obliquely, that is, the edge of that washer hits something hard, it will very likely break the front of the arrow.  

That happens to me all the time with heads like Hammerheads and generic similars, the wide ones.

Not saying they don't work, not at all, but you will break arrows.  I have had very good luck with plain nutters ( not even wing nutters), so all that extra is even better.  

But... as stated earlier, my experience is I knock them out (of the tree, and out cold) but it doesn't kill them.  I immediately dispatch them with my hawk and we go on to the next one (skwerl head against a tree / whack).

Matt, those look pretty wicked, but I worry about something like that coming out of the sky at someone else who may be out there.  I hunt public, almost exclusively and cannot "know" nobody else is out there.

DanielB89

QuoteOriginally posted by ChuckC:
Matt, those look pretty wicked, but I worry about something like that coming out of the sky at someone else who may be out there.  I hunt public, almost exclusively and cannot "know" nobody else is out there.
I know they would stick in a tree as well.  

I am curious to see how much damage these blunts will do.  I specifically chose a smaller washer to be sure they would be more pointed and HOPEFULLY do what i'm hoping they do.  

I will also be footing these arrows.
"Blessed is the man who trusts in the LORD And whose trust is the LORD. Jeremiah 17:7

"There is a way which seems right to a man,
But its end is the way of death."  Proverbs 14:12

Msturm

G5 small game heads worked well for me in Alaska this year. We only have little red squirrels and ground squirrels though. I don't see why they wouldn't work for the bigger guys.

Msturm
Stalker Coyote FXT Long bow 49#

Aloha!

Longtoke

QuoteOriginally posted by ChuckC:
Problems with wide heads, as pointed out by several above.  If you hit obliquely, that is, the edge of that washer hits something hard, it will very likely break the front of the arrow.  

That happens to me all the time with heads like Hammerheads and generic similars, the wide ones.

Not saying they don't work, not at all, but you will break arrows.  I have had very good luck with plain nutters ( not even wing nutters), so all that extra is even better.  

But... as stated earlier, my experience is I knock them out (of the tree, and out cold) but it doesn't kill them.  I immediately dispatch them with my hawk and we go on to the next one (skwerl head against a tree / whack).

Matt, those look pretty wicked, but I worry about something like that coming out of the sky at someone else who may be out there.  I hunt public, almost exclusively and cannot "know" nobody else is out there.
Yep, that has been my experience as well, if something catches the edge of those wider heads and torques the arrow something will break.






This 250 grain sgt broke above the threads and ripped out from a footed 400 spine carbon.


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