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Broadhead Arrows

Started by Lady Frost, July 10, 2016, 12:42:00 PM

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Don Stokes

I do my tuning the way kennym does, using woods.
Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.- Ben Franklin

Rough Run

My son shoots 1816 Easton Tributes or Jazz with 100gr points out of his 34# @ 28" recurve.  He draws about 28-1/2".  They fly great.  He shot 125gr a few times just for experimentation, and there was no perceptible difference in flight out to 22 yards - he didn't shoot beyond that.

Sam McMichael

Liz, if you decide to go with wood, I can probably help you. However, it has been a long, long time since I shot aluminum (and never have shot carbon). I imagine that if you make it to the TBG banquet, you can get a lot of good advice. I think if you are getting good flight with your current arrows, you will be able to find a broad head that will work well for you.
Sam

Bvas

Been shooting aluminum for years. They will get dented, dinged, and occasionally bent(usually glancing hits or hit by other arrows).  But I don't think I've ever just wore one out by shooting it too many times.
Im sure they could be refletched for a fraction of the cost of new.
If they fly good with practice tips, I would just get broadheads of the same weight and keep using them.
Some hunt to survive; some survive to hunt

Longtoke

Many others have more experience than me but it gives me confidence to get a full dozen and  shoot 6 for practice and keep 6 fresh with broad heads mounted and ready for hunting.


Shoot all 12 a bit to make sure they are consistent  but once I get them dialed in i like to set the 6 sharp arrows aside until it's time to harvest.

Lady Frost

QuoteOriginally posted by Sam McMichael:
Liz, if you decide to go with wood, I can probably help you. However, it has been a long, long time since I shot aluminum (and never have shot carbon). I imagine that if you make it to the TBG banquet, you can get a lot of good advice. I think if you are getting good flight with your current arrows, you will be able to find a broad head that will work well for you.
I do like wood arrows.  Still thinking about it.  I will be at the TBG banquet.  Don't have any field arrows that are in good enough shape.  Thanks for the advice everyone.
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huskyarcher

Those Tusker Concorde single bevels work great for lower poundage set up. I killed all kinds of stuff with them last year with a 40-42lb bow
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Dalton Lewis

Psalm 37:4- "Delight thyself also in the Lord:and he shall give thee the desires of thine heart."

Bladepeek

Liz, if you have arrows that are currently flying well out of your bow and the point weight is enough to make a reasonable broadhead arrow in the same weight, I'd go with them. I like carbon as it doesn't bend, but there is nothing wrong with aluminum.

Fletching is a very simple task for anyone set up to do it. If you can't find another trad archer there in GA who can refletch your beat up arrows, send them to me (not the bent ones) and I would be glad to re-fletch them for you.

Ron
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mangonboat

I'm a geezer who got started before the age of information .You will see old photos posted occasionally of shoots at clubs around the country and there are an amazingly large percentage of women archers. Yup. Archery was a popular social activity for couples and singles of both genders . Lots of those fine-shooting women didn't buy into the machismo hunting camp lore and wanted to hunt deer  and critters just like the men. Unlike the TV show lipstick and pink camo gals today shooting compound bows with 80% let off, in the 50's and 60's most women shot 25-40# recurves and a whole lot of critters were killed with 35# target bows. Most of the women were shooting skinny aluminum or fiberglass arrows cut 1" beyond their draw length with 100 gr. or less up front because that more-closely replicated their set up on the target range. Since I have an outdated mindset and don't know any better, I still don't load up my hunting arrows with massive amounts of single bevel hardened steel up front, typically shoot less than 10 grain per pound total arrow weight and I do okay, probably because my arrows hustle on down the road and I don't need a rangefinder to calculate the significant differences in my drop at 18 yards versus the drop at 22 versus the drop at 28, etc. Now we also have the carbon option  which is more durable than fiberglass and aluminum, and some really well made wood shafts for lighter bows, also much quieter in the woods. So if you like how you've been shooting ( and I saw the groups you posted earlier this year) dont freak out if you're shooting 100 gr. or less. As long as its legal with the State of Georgia, a 35# bow and 100 gr broadhead will kill anything in Georgia except a big gator or boar and you'll probably place your arrows  into the boiler room better. After all, its not likely  you'll be taking 40 yard shots or come across one of those freakish monsters they grow in the midwest. Your Autumn Orange XX75 shafts matched to your bow will work just fine.

BTW, Bladepeek makes some mighty good-looking arrows with fletching so pretty the deer and turkeys come close just to stare at it in admiration, so dont wait too long to take up his offer to re-fletch yours to get your quiver filled for hunting season.
mangonboat

I've adopted too many bows that needed a good home.

Lady Frost

QuoteOriginally posted by Bladepeek:
Liz, if you have arrows that are currently flying well out of your bow and the point weight is enough to make a reasonable broadhead arrow in the same weight, I'd go with them. I like carbon as it doesn't bend, but there is nothing wrong with aluminum.

Fletching is a very simple task for anyone set up to do it. If you can't find another trad archer there in GA who can refletch your beat up arrows, send them to me (not the bent ones) and I would be glad to re-fletch them for you.

Ron
Thank you Ron.  I have been thinking about it.  It really is not in my budget to get a new set, and alot of you are suggesting I just use my aluminums, so I am going through them all to find the best ones and I will see about getting one of my friends here to help me refletch them.  Then just find the right broadheads to screw in.
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Lady Frost

That was some great information, Mark.  I agree with going old school.  I don't want to try shooting with ANY extra gadgets.  I just want my recurve and my arrows.  Don't plan on trying to get 40, 50, 100 yard shots. And I want to do it all on my own.

P.S.  What is a good cheap target for Broadheads?
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tecum-tha

Did you ever check which size of aluminum are your best flying arrows?
The number should be printed on the shaft.
Shooting bent arrows is "not smart". Discard them. If metal is beyond the elastic deformation stage and in the plastic deformation range (bent), that is the stage before breakage.
Do you have your hunting education?
Did you budget for a treestand/safety harness or blind? Attention with stands, your bow is comparably long.
Hunting license cost?
Are we talking deer hunting or small game hunting?
Did you silence your bow or do you shoot a hill style longbow?
It is great to have new hunters, but it is even better to have realistic expectations when it comes to equipment/regulations and budgets.
1.) Hunting license/game stamps etc. costs
2.) Arrow and broadhead costs (4,50 per arrow+around 6x$5=$30 for a six pack of broadheads)
3.) Please invest $30 in a fletching jig. Will last your whole life and you won't have to pay to assemble some arrows.After one doz. of arrows you buy ready made, it is paid for.
4.) Do you have a bow quiver or a quiver you can safely and silently store razorsharp broadhead arrows? I guess the cheapest decent bow quivers are around $45.
5.) Sharpening equipment for broadheads and hunting knives ($10 for a large mill file.$10 for a sharpening stone/good knife sharpener)
6.) $60 for a ladder stand (http://www.menards.com/main/outdoors/outdoor-recreation/hunting-equipment/treestands-blinds/sky-raider-15-ladder-treestand/p-1444425417797-c-13885.htm?tid=-1157772307804763975). 15ft is plenty!
This is a very good design for bowhunting with no interference above the seat (rails,armrests etc.)
7.) Do you know how to treat your animal after you kill it? Field dressing,skinning,butchering? Especially when it is "hot" out there?
Processors are pretty expensive. You have to know how to dissassemble the animal quick to cool down the meat quickly.

This is just to show you, that there is more than sticking a broadhead onto your arrow involved...do your preparations and you will enjoy the hunt.

slowbowjoe

Liz, as Sam said earlier, let us know if you decide you'd like to try wood arrows. I'm sure there's enough of us who could come up with an arrow ,or broadhead, or two, for you to get a start on it.

Longtoke

Many cheap target options out there from a big old pile of sand, to some compressed straw bales stacked up and ratcheted together. Feed bags (the plastic weave kind) stuffed with old clothes or plastics sacks is also a cheap option and when the sack gets too worn just dump the hole rig into a new feed sack and keep blasting.

A small game license can get you into a lot hunting for not much cash. I cut my teeth on many years of small game hunting before I went after larger animals. Honestly I still enjoy small game the most.

SELFBOW19953

A cheap target is sand, a bag of white sand from home improvement store is fine-just leave it in the bag and shoot.
SELFBOW19953
USAF Retired (1971-1991)
"Somehow, I feel that arrows made of wood are more in keeping with the spirit of old-time archery and require more of the archer himself than a more modern arrow."  Howard Hill from "Hunting The Hard Way"

Lady Frost

QuoteOriginally posted by tecum-tha:
Did you ever check which size of aluminum are your best flying arrows?
The number should be printed on the shaft.
Shooting bent arrows is "not smart". Discard them. If metal is beyond the elastic deformation stage and in the plastic deformation range (bent), that is the stage before breakage.
Do you have your hunting education?
Did you budget for a treestand/safety harness or blind? Attention with stands, your bow is comparably long.
Hunting license cost?
Are we talking deer hunting or small game hunting?
Did you silence your bow or do you shoot a hill style longbow?
It is great to have new hunters, but it is even better to have realistic expectations when it comes to equipment/regulations and budgets.
1.) Hunting license/game stamps etc. costs
2.) Arrow and broadhead costs (4,50 per arrow+around 6x$5=$30 for a six pack of broadheads)
3.) Please invest $30 in a fletching jig. Will last your whole life and you won't have to pay to assemble some arrows.After one doz. of arrows you buy ready made, it is paid for.
4.) Do you have a bow quiver or a quiver you can safely and silently store razorsharp broadhead arrows? I guess the cheapest decent bow quivers are around $45.
5.) Sharpening equipment for broadheads and hunting knives ($10 for a large mill file.$10 for a sharpening stone/good knife sharpener)
6.) $60 for a ladder stand (http://www.menards.com/main/outdoors/outdoor-recreation/hunting-equipment/treestands-blinds/sky-raider-15-ladder-treestand/p-1444425417797-c-13885.htm?tid=-1157772307804763975). 15ft is plenty!
This is a very good design for bowhunting with no interference above the seat (rails,armrests etc.)
7.) Do you know how to treat your animal after you kill it? Field dressing,skinning,butchering? Especially when it is "hot" out there?
Processors are pretty expensive. You have to know how to dissassemble the animal quick to cool down the meat quickly.

This is just to show you, that there is more than sticking a broadhead onto your arrow involved...do your preparations and you will enjoy the hunt.
Both of my sets are 1816s I believe. The autumn orange ones don't have a number or maybe the paint covers it.  Gotta check with woodchucker.  I went through them last night and put aside the bent ones. Only 2 of them.  I have a hunting ed class to go to, luckily it is free. I work two jobs, so have to find the time.
I want to try deer hunting, but I am open to trying smaller game first.  I will have to save up for the license.  I am reading the traditional bowhunters handbook, I might try making some silencers.  I have some broadheads coming in the mail thanks to Kennym.  I am planning on ground blind hunting.  A friend of mine taught me last year how to build them and how to look for signs of deer, also how to gauge the wind.
I will have to wait on the fletching jig.  Yes I have a broadhead quiver.  
Thanks for all the info.  I do appreciate everyone passing their wisdom to me and I have friends here in GA that are also giving me guidance.  I also have friends that will supervise my first field dressing. Yeah it will be hot.  Archery hunting season starts mid Sept here, and it stays hot til Nov.   :)

Longtoke and Selfbow, thanks for the tips on cheap targets, I will try those options.

Thanks again everyone for your advice!  It is appreciated more than you know!
My cup runneth over


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Lady Frost

Guys I think I have my hunting set!!!  One of my friends surprised me yesterday with this set of carbons!!!!!   :D    :D    :D



The tips on them are 125-Kenny, I just got through re checking all of the broadheads you sent,  was thinking the 110s but not sure if I should use those or a heavier grain.
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monterey

Regarding the inexpensive broadhead target.  You can get the foam target at wally world for 15 to 20 bucks.  

I'm guessing you already have a field point target so the foam can easily provide enough life to serve it's purpose.

I recommend shooting one broadhead at a time or several field tips after one broadhead.  It's unpleasant to walk up to your group and find that the he second broadhead shaved the Fletch off your first.   :banghead:  

I've been following this thread and believe you have your bases covered so good luck in your efforts.
Monterey

"I didn't say all that stuff". - Confucius........and Yogi Berra


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