HH bug got me ... Part One!

bsv · April 12, 2013, 08:46:00 PM

been trying to follow the thread,I have a couple questions,I just don't understand string follow and what does trapped limbs mean? thanks Burt

Bud B. · April 12, 2013, 09:03:00 PM

QuoteOriginally posted by bsv:
been trying to follow the thread,I have a couple questions,I just don't understand string follow and what does trapped limbs mean? thanks Burt

trapezoid/trapezoidal shaped in limb tiller. belly usually 1/8" or slightly more narrow than back.

string follow....the limbs bend towards belly, or towards the string side, when not under tension.

bsv · April 12, 2013, 09:23:00 PM

thanks Bud,what are the advantages if any to string follow? Burt

Bud B. · April 12, 2013, 10:00:00 PM

for me it translates into smoother release and a reduction in handshock. ( I feel none with my Dave Johnson backset LB) Some say they (SF bows) are more forgiving to bad releases and form. I shoot so bad I can't tell. As you draw a SF bow the increase in weight is smooth. In backset it seems to be felt earlier in the draw in feeling the weight increase.

Anyone else???

Shinken · April 12, 2013, 11:56:00 PM

The Northern Mist Shelton (SF) I have is very smooth drawing and the hand shock is essentially non-existent. I also have a Northern Mist Classic that shoots most-excellently as well, but it does have a different feel than the Shelton.

An important factor in perceived hand shock is how the bow "fits" your shooting style - the grip, how your shooting form accommodates a slightly bent elbow, your release, etc.

I have *always* recommended shooting a bow before one buys since "the grip" on a bow is such a personal thing....

Keep the wind in your face!

Shoot straight, Shinken

bsv · April 13, 2013, 12:40:00 PM

Any opinions on two tracks Echo,I'm very close to buying one as my first american long bow.Burt

April 13, 2013, 03:15:00 PM

You will get more specific sugestions if you give the specifics of you and any bow you are thinking about getting. Remember that a straight grip bow will tend for most shooters to give a bit of a bend in the bow arm which will shorten your draw. I am one that believes if you try to force an unnaturally long draw with a straight gripped bow your accuracy will suffer. As far as which bow draws smoother, it is all about where the bow picks it poundage up at. I prefer bows that have less build up at the end of the draw no matter what the shape of the limbs are. If one bow has a bit more hand shock than another, that does not rule out the bow that may have more handshock. Many bows with a bit of thump are great shooters and with some form adaptions the effects of some hand shock tends to go away.

ChrisM · April 13, 2013, 06:51:00 PM

Interesting thing. I have a string follow bow and love it. However I have been wondering about a back set Hill and how it would be different. I know each design has its plusses and minuses as there is no perfect bow.

Bud B. · April 13, 2013, 07:05:00 PM

I love both designs. The SF Big 5 I have throws a good cast, but the lesser poundage (by just a few pounds) backset Dave Johnson seems to throw arrows flatter and faster.

bsv · April 13, 2013, 07:57:00 PM

Pavan,I have been a recurve guy for along time now, the past couple of years,(since I found Tradgang)I have been trying different types of bows,I have a b/w recurve I had made in 1995 and still love it today,I have had RER"s,Fox l/b,3 Big Jim Buff's, I just got a Stalker coyote with l/b limbs it's awesome. With the recurve grip I have a 30in draw,and have been doing my homework about hill style bows,as far as gripping drawing,and bow arm, however I have never shot one.There is a Echo,in stock that is 68in and 51@28 not to heavy to develop good form,I'm guessing I will have around 28-29in draw with a slight dished grip. And thank you guys for all your help!Burt

Rossco7002 · April 13, 2013, 08:49:00 PM

Stingfollow is where it's at for me. Don't notice any difference in speed (with a well made one) and it helps keep your arrows on target when your shot isn't as perfect as it should be.

ChrisM · April 13, 2013, 08:59:00 PM

Rossco what's the update on the Expedition?

Rossco7002 · April 13, 2013, 10:40:00 PM

In the form as we speak buddy - hoping to have it in my hands for the Sprig turkey opener here!

66 inch, sting follow 56@26 with a slight dish as per Schulzs design. Z

Trad Longbow Joe · April 15, 2013, 12:51:00 PM

Ross that is very cool, David has had my Expedition in and out of the form several times already. I am hoping to get it by the end of the month, 68" straight 65#@27" black glass on belly slight dish handle! I may have to place an order for the Hawk next.....

rushlush · April 15, 2013, 01:50:00 PM

Mudd · April 15, 2013, 03:39:00 PM

QuoteOriginally posted by rushlush:

DDDrrrooooolllll!!!!!!!!

sticksnstones · April 15, 2013, 03:57:00 PM

Howdy Burt, my experience of going from a high wrist recurve to a low wrist longbow was about what you described. My draw dropped 1.5" and I don't think that is unusual. I'd bet a 68" bow would do just fine for you.

Jesus, that is a beautiful bow you've got there! I've loved every picture I've seen of it

Thom

Bud B. · April 15, 2013, 10:39:00 PM

Just took the plunge an sent a deposit on a 7 Lakes Carolina Night.

Now the wait ......

Shinken · April 15, 2013, 11:00:00 PM

QuoteOriginally posted by rushlush:

Nice one Rush! Very nice!

How does that carbon feel on that lady?

Shoot straight, Shinken

Brianlocal3 · April 16, 2013, 06:49:00 AM

Bud,
Good job I the 7lakes. mike is a great guy to talk to and deal with, my son Max shoots on of his bows and they are fantastic. What specs are you going with?