Now, whenever I get a new bow or arrows. The fist thing I do is put a piece of blue painters tape at the bottom of my target.  I shoot 2 arrows at 10,15,20,25,30,35,40,45,and 50 yards, by floating my tip over the blue tape.  At this point I make  a mental note of how high my impact point is.  From here I figure out where the majority of the arrows fall into a 4-6" group. So for the C&N its 10-30 or so yards.  say thats 20", and that will put the arrows on or +/- 2-3" of the 11 ring.  I will now from here on out, hold a gap of 20" for every shot in those ranges.  And after a little bit of shooting there is no thinking involved its just natural for the bow arm to go where it needs to go.  I never fully rely on my gap, as I phase it out.  But I feel it helps me with adjusting to every new bow.  

Now at any 3D i go to or hunting situation, I know my secondary point is around mid shin on a deer, 3-4 " to the right.  This allows my 100% confidence and zero second guessing.  Sorry if that was clear as mud, but explaining it does not come easy to me.

http://www.youtube.com/user/jimmyblackmon

this is jimmy explaining it, but he is a WAY better shot than I, but he takes it more serious too.  I have a more laid back approach.  Jimmys the man!!!

Oh, and here is how I figured this out.  I tried doing gap shooting, but could not get into all the measurements, and then I started freaking my self out when Id get to an unknown range.  I would start wondering where is x" how do i know this is X", what range am I at, how many inches for this yards etc.  it was too difficult for me.  
But after shooting for a while I noticed that it looked like my arrow was in the same spot all the time from 10-30 or so yards.  So I started experimenting by putting the blue tape on my target and Id float it as I explained earlier, and once i realized all my ranges where holding roughly the same gap the entire system clicked for me and it has been heaven since  

So If this kind of shooting intimidates you or you think its too technical, just try the simplified version like i have to use with my simple brain and you will then understand why Howard Hill said it was the fastest most accurate method for shooting  in a hunting situation.

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What a teenie doe ..... NOT!


Nice deer Louis!

Bud

NICE doe Louis! Congrats

Very nice doe!!    

Wow what a deer, congrats!

Nice deer.

Great picture too !

Thanks Brian.  That video was very helpful.  Jimmy explained arrow trajectory very well and backed it up with actual shooting which was nice.

I love how everyone on this site is truly committed to helping others become better archers!

Congrats on that "Little doe"        

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Oh My! The venison horse!    

Mr. Lucido we need to know the details of this hunt.  Stand, still hunt, equipment, etc.  My friend that is a great trophy right there.

Thanks Guy for all the kind words! that is a doe that I shot on private land , this time . I shot her with a shrew Hill I got from Ron in August . 43 pounds @ 27 inches and 66 inches long .that was my 30th white tail with traditional Equipment and Wood Arrows , and I thank God for all of them! I Love Howard Hill , and have tried to get and study all the info I can about Him .this started my Love for the Longbow!I have never met a bad traditional person yet , you guy's have the Love for doing the Hard Way !! Louie Lucido   Gen27: 3

well, last night Mr. Nate's Sunset Hill longbow did it again.  that along with the help and advice of others here.  this was classic Howard Hill style at work.  I stalked her from 100 yards out, got within, 30 yards and brought the bow up and shot, quick and acurate.  She went 50 yards.  I have been a strong believer in Hill heads and loved Ace broadheads.  On her I used a simmons landshark, wow, the bloodtrail was like someone spilled a paint can of blood. [/url] [/IMG]

Nice shot!

For those that don't know Louis, he's 4' tall and is 10' behind that doe!  It dressed at 60#!    

   

Nice one Louis!

Todd,

What a hunt, on the ground stalking.  That fella in Idaho builds some mighty fine longbows.  Great trophy.

Todd...great stalk...last week and this week.  You are really hunting the hard way!  Way to go:)

Louie...way to go!  They are all trophys with an American semilongbow and woodies!

Some vids of me shooting. To be honest I haven't spent a ton of time working on my hill style form yet, but this is my starting point for this winter's work.