HH bug got me ... Part One!

January 10, 2012, 01:06:00 PM

I put a fast flight on a bow without overlays, so far I can detect no damage. I think if the bow has a good amout of width between the string grooves and the string is generously padded and grooves and string are clean, it can be worth the comfort and slightly added cast. Where using the fast flight strings would make me nervous is bows with deep string grooves and delicate tips. The Kramers that I have seen had enough material between the grooves, imo. It is not all that difficult to add a bit of overlay on the tips if there is a flat spot on the back glass, it just needs to be carefully melded with the existing groove, no edges, and it only needs to be up the center between the grooves to give structural support.

cbCrow · January 10, 2012, 02:07:00 PM

I had a conversation with Craig when I bought my Tembo from him. He told me it was safe to use FF on his bows. He sent me the bow with a 14 str. FF string on the bow.

Stiks-n-Strings · January 10, 2012, 02:47:00 PM

I've peeked in on this post here and there. A while back K.S. Trapper posted one he built on the bowyers bench. I fell in love with it. It was modeled after a hill style boo backed osage.

I talked to Craig at hill archery today and got some info from him and I am gonna build me a 66" 50ish @29 boo, bloodwood, osage with osage and blood wood riser.

dragonheart · January 10, 2012, 03:05:00 PM

Will it have glass or no glass?

Stiks-n-Strings · January 10, 2012, 04:13:00 PM

No glass on it. Gonna back it with bamboo.

dragonheart · January 10, 2012, 04:26:00 PM

Thats Groovy with nodes!

tradlongbow · January 10, 2012, 08:01:00 PM

I don't know about you guys, but I'm dreaming of turkey season. Here in Florida it starts in March.

Darren

tradlongbow · January 10, 2012, 08:03:00 PM

Hey look at me, I finally figured out how to setup my avatar.

Kudos to Rob, he is extremely helpful.

Darren

Caleb Andes · January 10, 2012, 08:09:00 PM

How is this thread still going...

I am almost positive this thread has been around longer than I have been shooting trad. lol

tradlongbow · January 10, 2012, 09:24:00 PM

QuoteOriginally posted by Caleb Andes:
How is this thread still going...

I am almost positive this thread has been around longer than I have been shooting trad. lol

The thread has been going for over a year. Some of us were part of the Howard Hill Longbowman, that was an email listing that ended before this thread started.

Some of us have been shooting Hill bow's for several decades. It's nice for us Hill shooters to have our own place to go.

Darren

SAM E. STEPHENS · January 10, 2012, 09:24:00 PM

Anyone have a guess on the age of this "Big Five" BK70154 , Thanks.............
,,,,Sam,,,,

tradlongbow · January 10, 2012, 09:28:00 PM

Sam-

This is from Craig Ekin to Dick Wrightman.

Darren

Hi Dick:
There are some general ones (rules) that will help out "most" people. There have been quite a few bowyers over the decades, but the most common are:

5 numbers without any letters or with just an R in front were made by John Schulz. The R stands for reverse handle.

There are a 'few' that have a Y for yew.

4 numbers followed by 3 numbers without any letters were made by Tim Meigs.....ie: 7077 134

2 letters or 3 letters where the last letter is K were made by Ted Kramer and/or his son, Lee. For example: BK is Big Five by Ted and Lee Kramer. BLK is Big Five
by Lee Kramer. BTK is Big Five by Ted Kramer. They worked together lots of the time in the same shop. Early on they did everything together. Later on, they worked
in the same shop but individually.

These letters are then followed by 4 or 5 numbers which are the length of the bow with the serial number of the bow.

And a bow with C in the beginning two or three letters was made here and stands for Craig.

Occasionally, someone would request something unique and that won't fit into this scheme, but this will take care of most of the bows from late 60's on.

Hope this helps. Let me know if you don't understand something or you have a question.

Craig

SAM E. STEPHENS · January 10, 2012, 10:24:00 PM

That is good info , how old do you think , dont matter just wondering.......

tradlongbow · January 10, 2012, 11:28:00 PM

Sam
Ted Kramer built bows from 1977 to 1992. Call Craig he might be able to give you the exact year. Good looking bow.

Darren

JCJ · January 10, 2012, 11:35:00 PM

QuoteOriginally posted by SAM E. STEPHENS:
That is good info , how old do you think , dont matter just wondering.......

Sam:

That is one of my old bows. Pretty decent shooter but I never cared for the grip as much as a standard straight grip.

Hope it serves you well.

Jay

SAM E. STEPHENS · January 10, 2012, 11:43:00 PM

Thanks for the info guys , did you buy this bow new of used. This is my first Hill bow and I like it so far seems to shoot the 70-75 cedar arrows well.Just put a new string on and will get in more shooting in the next few days.May take it on a hunt later in the week........
,,,,,Sam,,,,

Rossco7002 · January 11, 2012, 11:48:00 AM

My snakewood Half Breed is waiting for collection at the post office today! Can't wait to have a look at it and do some shooting!

Would anyone be good enough to post some pics for me if I email them to you?

Thanks!

C.Cannon · January 11, 2012, 04:57:00 PM

Man, after reading all this about the new Hills I think I might have to order a blank.

What do ya'll think of a four lamination bow with alternating Juniper and Yew laminations (starting with a yew back and ending in a juniper belly) on a cocobolo riser? I would probably end up calling it the "Go and See" (Hill's life quote from Wild Adventure)

(PS first post on Trad Gang!)

January 11, 2012, 05:10:00 PM

Hey Casey.

Welcome to TG! You picked a good place to start your journey.

To answer your question...whatever you think will look good is the best way to go. Everybody has different likes and dislikes... and we are all right!

MikeNova · January 11, 2012, 06:08:00 PM

Ok I'm going pig huntin tomarrow true Hill style huntin with two feet on the ground that is. This will be the second time I've actually ground hunted pig game. The last time I stalked I did shoot a pig but that had more to do with the dumb pig just sitting there and not moving when i was 10 feet from him. Any pig huntin stalking tips?