Thanks for all the advice and recommendations guys!, now someone talk me out of the sawtooth! Are there comparable options for a tad less money.?

Mega tarp, I think on my tablet at home I have a big thread bookmarked, if I can remember I'll link it for you

http://tradgang.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=1;t=142136

Drew,

Not many guys that give floorless a try ever go back to a "traditional" tent. The advantages outweigh the disadvantages by far when you are packing in. My 8man and stove are packed right now to head for Alaska. I have a busy fall, but since you don't need it until next season, we should meet halfway and we can set up the tipi and my Supertarp one weekend this winter and do some stump shooting. You can spend a night in the ST and get a better idea hands on.  

The Sawtooth is a one of a kind and unique shelter. It would be a great do it all shelter for you. My circumstances led me to go big with the 8man for 2-3 and ST for me or Daniel and I in a pinch.

I'm looking at rounding things out with an extremely ultralight one man cuben fiber setup where I really need to keep the weight down for a couple early season things I have in the works.

Sawtooth is killer. SeekOutside has some similar, interesting offers.

I just had my first run with floorless in Alaska in some of the worst weather the North Slope has seen in years in Aug.  I was thrilled with it!  I'll never say never but I absolutely consider this my solo shelter of choice for now.  This was the Seek Outside Beyond Timberline (BT-2).  Good for one person and all your gear plus stove or OK for two stowing gear outside.  I faced days of rain and snow and stayed dry and warm.  I also coupled it with a Helinox chair.  Getting seated was tight but it did fit and had enough head room.  I've spent days in a bivy tent laying down and I'll never do it again.

Sent you a PM!

Why I like a tarp:

Inexpensive, I made my own for about $30 (9'x11' silnylon)

Lightweight and very packable (20 oz with floor, stakes and guys)

Flexible in setup - there are many ways to pitch, including ways to minimize condensation and avoid wind

Exposure to the wild - it's second best to sleeping under the stars

I don't mind bugs as long as they are not mosquitoes

I bought a Henry Shires Stratospire 2 tarptent, absolutely love it. Very spacious for 1, dual big vestibule for keeping gear and cooking, packs up very small and weighs 2.875 #, not sure eif that's with stakes or not but still incredibly light.

Also easy to setup, and can be setup in the rain as the fly is built in so the inside won't get wet while setting up (already done this)

Really really like mine and would recommend for anybody.

I have had many comfortable nights in my Warbonnet Outdoors Traveler hammock and sil tarp, but if I were going above the treeline in cold temps, the Kifaru Sawtooth would be at the top of my list...with the stove.

Just because it's "floorless", doesn't mean you can't have a floor. You can bring a piece of thin plastic in whatever size suits you; the whole tarp dimensions or just a pice big enough for your gear or clothes or whatever. You can also use a bicycle to keep the bugs off you as you sleep.

https://youtu.be/LJQyagsvgmU
https://youtu.be/rdfWaXYzZC0

i like these ideas from clay hayes, i like the idea of the teepee style too.

QuoteOriginally posted by Wandering Archer:
Just because it's "floorless", doesn't mean you can't have a floor. You can bring a piece of thin plastic in whatever size suits you; the whole tarp dimensions or just a pice big enough for your gear or clothes or whatever. You can also use a bicycle to keep the bugs off you as you sleep.

My 2 favorite hobbies are bow hunting and cycling.
If you could post a video of how this actually works I'd love to see it. Cause I just can't seem to put the 2 together.
OR.....
this is a case of that DANG AUTOCORRECT!!!

QuoteOriginally posted by Matty:
 

QuoteOriginally posted by Wandering Archer:
 You can also use a bicycle to keep the bugs off you as you sleep.

My 2 favorite hobbies are bow hunting and cycling.
If you could post a video of how this actually works I'd love to see it. Cause I just can't seem to put the 2 together.
OR.....
this is a case of that DANG AUTOCORRECT!!! [/b]

Oh man, I'm literally laughing out loud right now trying to picture someone using a bicycle to keep bugs off of them while sleeping under a tarp.
Yes, that would be a case of "that DANG AUTOCORRECT!!!"
I meant to say "BIVY". As in the thin bag that you put your sleeping bag in and it zips up over your head and has some netting in the head area so you can see and breath.

Check out a bivy with a sili tarp.

light, you can use tarp when you need to sit up and for storage of gear, and bivy keeps you extra protected while sleeping.

This combo can be done in about 1.5 lbs, packs up very small and gives several options for cover (temp for treking, and at camp site)

I actually prefer my hammock and silnylon tarp with a down underquilt and topquilt.  It's very warm and weather resistant, and infinitely more comfortable than sleeping on the ground, IMO.  I've spent nights into the teens and many nights in driving rain comfortably.