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Very informative Curt...thanks brother!!

a most excellent share - thanx curt!

Thanks Curt!

Great post Curt.   This picture was briefly show in video.  This is almost the identical angle of my arrow in my recent post.  I mentioned it's all about angles and inches.    

 

This type of post is so important to what we do.  Thanks again.

Finally....good find, Curt!

Very good info..

One thing I've noticed about videoing some harvests is what you see is usually different than what happens, if only by a little bit it can change the shot completely. I also think people don't realize they hit above the spine if they are close to the shoulder and think they hit the so called dead zone.

Great video!  

Thanks

Nice video.  However, a doctor commented on this video in another discussion forum that the lungs are rarely if ever filled to the capacity that he shows by using a compressor to fill them out.  For the most part the lungs are in the relaxed state.  If you positioned that deer upright you may have a different view.  I'm not advocating there is a dead zone but hitting the top of the lungs that lye under the spine does not necessarily result in a mortal hit.

Thanks for sharing this one, I'd have to disagree with this one a bit:

1)The lungs are rarely inflated to that level
2)Marginal lung shot doesn't mean a lethal shot

I agree that realistically there is no real "dead zone" and can see why mixed results are the norm with shots in this area. Medically speaking, in a relaxed mammal the lungs will be 40-70% inflated as opposed to 100% as seen in the image in this video. I have personally seen other hunters deer survive a shot in the "dead" zone mostly because the lung(s) were not hit in a major pulmonary artery or vein. This results in little breathing obstruction and slow blood loss.

Another take away from this video is the "low and back" shot from an elevated stand. Take a look at the lungs fully inflated and one can see that this shot is not cool!

Nice video, but the dead/void zone has been debunked  many moons ago.  And speaking of moons, so has the moon-phase rut correlation  BS.  

Nonetheless, they will persist regardless of science as there is no need to let facts get in the way of a good story - as they say :-)

Thanks for sharing though.

This is really great information.  I don't admit to knowing much about anything, but unfortunately I have made more than my share of bad shots with trad as well as wheels, and have followed up tracking for friends in the same boat as well.  I absolutely agree with Krex1010---the shoulder has been a huge problem for me.  Part of my problem comes from my tendency to hunt high in a tree---we have a ton of pressure here in central ohio and hunting lower this time of year gets me busted.  When I have hit the shoulder I have not been able to recover a single deer shot there.  Of course I read on another site how this guy shoots deer in the paddle bone with low poundage bows and always recovers them---he also denies the existence of paradox.  But I don't live in a magic place and when I make a bad shot it does not work out well for the animal---I have put my bow up for the remainder of the season because of this in the past and continue to practice daily.  The information shown on the video really supports the advantage in quartering away angles and why quartering to presents issues with regard to shoulder blade.
I did once shoot at a doe this time of year when she was sporting her winter coat.  After the shot the doe ran behind my tree and continued to stomp for 2 or 3 minutes--sounds like a miss right?  Well when she took a couple of steps I was able to make a good second shot and when I later skinned her I found the first arrow had passed through her backstraps.  When I went back the next day and found the first arrow I would have sworn that it had gone low and hit brisket as it was covered in fat with very little blood.  We're always learning.  Thanks for the info.

Curt...we should add that to the whitetail area in the shot placement thread....find a post in the whitetail area you can edit and put that clip in there.

Great stuff.

I'll agree that lungs won't inflate as much as with his compressor, but they will fill the entire cavity.  There is no empty air space around the outside of the lungs.  The only air space is inside the lungs.

Great find, Curt!

I don't understand why there is confusion as to a deer's anatomy for anyone who has killed a deer. Do some guys just send it to the meat processor every time? Really good video, but don't think it's new info to anyone who has cut up a deer.

QuoteOriginally posted by Terry Green:
Curt...we should add that to the whitetail area in the shot placement thread....find a post in the whitetail area you can edit and put that clip in there.

Great stuff.

Done....added to your first post in the thread bud

Thanks for sharing Curt !!! Great stuff  


Bill

Cool post.