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Arrows with the heaviest gpi, but with 600 spine?

Started by alex321, May 06, 2014, 04:49:00 PM

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alex321

I have been looking everywhere for such an arrow, as I have a 25" draw and the weight is between 40-45 at 28".  I am shooting a eglish logbow so need a gpi of 8 gpi or greater.

The heaviest I have found is Easton apollo at
spine   gpi
670   7.7         
610   8.1
560   8.4

I am trying all three and would like to hear of other possible models worth trying.

I have also ordered Beman Hunter Junior, which also seem heavy, but there are conflicting reports on the actually spine... Its either 500 or 650 spine.

I am sick of my wooden arrows breakig so easy so wish to give carbon a go.  I know that this sounds stupid for someone shooting an english longbow, but patience has goe with wooden arrows

Thanks for your suggestions.
Alex

nineworlds9

Try to locate some Beman MFX classic 600s.  They've been discontinued but sometimes they can be found.  Can't remember what gpi but also look at Beman Centershot 600s.
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dragonheart

Have you tried Surewood Douglas Fir?  Tough wood with heavier weight.
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nineworlds9

You can also use weight tubes.  Yes Doug fir is good stuff.
52" Texas Recurve
58" Two Tracks Ogemaw
60" Toelke Chinook
62" Tall Tines Stickflinger
64" Big Jim Mountain Monarch
64" Poison Dart LB
66" Wes Wallace Royal
            
Horse Creek TAC, GA
TBOF

alex321

QuoteOriginally posted by dragonheart:
Have you tried Surewood Douglas Fir?  Tough wood with heavier weight.
No, I haven't.  I have tried cedar and spruce(I think).  Cedar were a bit tougher...

I would like to give carbon a go... If these break, then maybe I should improve my shooting..  :)
Cheers
Alex

Paul_R

You can always use weight tubes to add up to 8gpi to any carbon arrow without affecting spine. Get them from 3 Rivers.
"My opinion is free and worth every penny"

alex321

QuoteOriginally posted by nineworlds9:
Try to locate some Beman MFX classic 600s.  They've been discontinued but sometimes they can be found.  Can't remember what gpi but also look at Beman Centershot 600s.
I will look into those two.  Thanks for the advice.

The selection of carbo bows is so wide.  I tried GT Trads 1535, but even these were too stiff whilst bare shafting.  I don't understand that, but such is life...

Cheers
Alex
ALex

alex321

QuoteOriginally posted by nineworlds9:
You can also use weight tubes.  Yes Doug fir is good stuff.
Weight tubes ???Never heard of them, but the again I have oly been shooting for a few months... I will google these.  I am pleased that they do not change the spine of the arrow.  this is very importnat for my low draw weight.

Cheers
Alex

Prairie Drifter

I'm a little confused, do you mean 8 grs per pound of bow weight(gpp)?
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Prairie Drifter

Carbon express heritage 90's weigh 9.7gpi and spine .598
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pghrich

hello, i have a similar situation, i only draw 24" and shoot a 45#@24" elb, i ended up using gt traditional 15/35 with 100g brass inserts and 125g points cut to 27 1/2", they fly very nice and weight about 470g,

tradhunter

The good thing about the Gold tip arrows is the brass weights that you can screw in to the back of the inserts. I use the 50 gr. ones and just keep adding till the arrow is spined right for the bow....that is if they start out to stiff, adds a ton of weight over all, and puts it where you want it, up front!
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Paul_R

QuoteOriginally posted by Prairie Drifter:
I'm a little confused, do you mean 8 grs per pound of bow weight(gpp)?
I mean 8 grains per inch (gpi). They come in 3, 5, and 8 gpi. Check out the video:

  weight tubes
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skunkhound

X 2 for Carbon Express Heritage. They seem to have the heaviest gpi, which means you don't need all of your weight up front.

JamesKerr

CX Heritage 90 or 75 heaviest GPI in that low of a shaft spine I've come across. Though I don't find them to be much stronger to impacts (mushrooming the front end) than when I shot cedar arrows. A much tougher arrow to look at is the Arrow Dynamic Trad extra light. I don't know it's spine but I bet it would work for you, based on the fact that I can use either trads or trad lights on my 60 lb bows.
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damascusdave

Seems to me a 1916 aluminum would be worth considering...carbon is not your only other choice

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Prairie Drifter

QuoteOriginally posted by Paul_R:
 
QuoteOriginally posted by Prairie Drifter:
I'm a little confused, do you mean 8 grs per pound of bow weight(gpp)?
I mean 8 grains per inch (gpi). They come in 3, 5, and 8 gpi. Check out the video:

  weight tubes  [/b]
Paul, I was referring to the OP. I know about the tubes, I use them.
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Paul_R

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alex321

QuoteOriginally posted by Prairie Drifter:
[qb] I'm a little confused, do you mean 8 grs per pound of bow weight(gpp)?
Sorry, I did not make myself clear.  I meant gpi. Using the 8 grains per pound of draw weight, I need about 320 grains total weight.  Which minus 80 grains for tip is 250 grains.  For an arrow at 26", this works out at about 9 grns per inch of arrow.  this is not possible to find in the higher spines (eg 600), but I would like something near.

Thanks
ALex

Prairie Drifter

Well, your shooting less than 35 pounds at your draw. There is no way a .600 spine arrow at 26" w/ only a 80gr point will spine correctly. That arrow will be way stiff. I can shoot a .600 spine at 27" for up to 50lbs and need at minimum 150grs of tip weight. This is from bows with the shelf cut just before center.
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