static recurves and a short drawlength??

warden415 · January 02, 2014, 10:43:00 AM

I wanted to see if anyone with a short drawlength (25") , has any experience with the static tip recurves? I have been reading all the posts I can to find on advantages and disadvantages of the static tips since I have never shot one. I read alot about how longer drawlengths gain an advantage reducing string angle. Obviously that isn't an issue with my short draw.

I have spoken to Kirk at Bigfoot and he was more than helpful answering questions and very personable!
I have been shooting a hybrid longbow for years that I build. trying to decide if it is worth it to spend the money on a custom bow or not? I am happy with what I am shooting. .. But only drawing 25 and shooting 42 to 45 lb I am looking for any increase in performance I could gain.
I can't decide if I want someone to persuade me to buy or not to buy one? Lol
so let's hear from all you draw challenged people out there. Or at least the ones who are honest about their drawlength!

maxwell · January 02, 2014, 01:16:00 PM

I have a 25.5-26" draw and have shot and still do static limb bows. I love them. Very quiet and if I aim well they do the job. I wouldn't hesitate to recommend them.

trubltrubl · January 02, 2014, 01:31:00 PM

shoot bows that are no longer than 60inches and I would recommend a 58" to 56" bow....I would also use a reflex deflex longbow....or a recurve..get maximum performance from a bow if your draw length is short...I am 26 " or so and have alot of bows mostly 60 inch to 62 inch but I shoot heavier weight bows..if I was going lighter weight I shoot shorter bows ...also if hunting use as heavy an arrow you can that is tuned properly to your bow and draw....good luck

trubltrubl · January 02, 2014, 01:35:00 PM

i shot a doe this year with a 60 inch Quartermoon recurve with Static tips...it was 52 # at 26 " and using a 630 grain arrow that went through the doe and kept going...love the bow...I have a photo of it in the Alberta thread with the doe under the 2013 hunting thread...

Dogboy900 · January 02, 2014, 02:05:00 PM

Here is a link to a comparison S2 Bowstrings did between a static tip recurve and a std recurve. From memory he draws about 26"
I don't think you will find a better or more comprehensive comparison out there.

http://tradgang.com/noncgi/ultimatebb.php?ubb=get_topic;f=1;t=122464#000009

KenH · January 02, 2014, 02:29:00 PM

I shoot bows under 50". Love static tips -- whether static recurves or horsebow siyahs. Both give you that extra oomph.

Orion · January 02, 2014, 02:32:00 PM

A static tip recurve isn't going to give you much, if any, performance increase over a proper length severe r/d hybrid, or a standard recurve, for that matter.

At a short draw length, you could actually lose performance with a static limb bow because you may not fully open the tips at full draw.

Matching bow length to draw length, i.e., shorter bow for shorter draw length, will yield a little more performance regardless of design type. Of course, a low strand count high performance string will also bump up the performance of any bow.

Other design features also come into play. A bow with a lot of early load will probably work best for you, regardless of the shape of the tips. Good luck in your search.

Prairie Drifter · January 02, 2014, 03:39:00 PM

"Matching bow length to draw length, i.e., shorter bow for shorter draw length, will yield a little more performance regardless of design type."

I disagree. Most short bows have a long brace height, 8"+, to accommodate draws of 28" or better. Look for short bows w/ a short brace, under 7", for best performance w/ a short draw. I draw 26" and get my best performance from low brace bows.

steadman · January 02, 2014, 03:44:00 PM

Ryan Sanpei should be here shortly

pamike · January 02, 2014, 03:59:00 PM

Replied to your PM

Rick Richard · January 02, 2014, 04:39:00 PM

I have a 26 inch draw and own a set of Max1 Static limbs and I DO believe they make a difference over other designs.

Orion · January 02, 2014, 04:44:00 PM

Prairie: A low brace height on a short bow, usually means a lot of early load. That's what I suggested in my last paragraph above.

D. Key · January 02, 2014, 04:47:00 PM

Not really a static recurve but please look at my Toelke Kestral listed on the Classifieds. It would suit you perfectly. A smoother and harder hitting low poundage recurve you will not find, I promise. PM me if you have any questions or call me @ 409-880-5563.

katman · January 02, 2014, 06:50:00 PM

Rick Richard, aren't Morrison's max1's a semi static like the border hex5 and hex6?

The max1's are very good recurve limbs imo.

Warden, you won't be disappointed with a bow from Kirk at bigfoot bows, extremely well balanced a timed limbs in a very efficient design. I am anxiously awaiting my ss build now to try his static.

Prairie Drifter · January 02, 2014, 07:33:00 PM

QuoteOriginally posted by Orion:
Prairie: A low brace height on a short bow, usually means a lot of early load. That's what I suggested in my last paragraph above.

Gotcha

Stump73 · January 02, 2014, 08:13:00 PM

I have a 24 3/4" draw. Im shooting static limbs on my Dryad Orion. It works great for my short draw.

warden415 · January 02, 2014, 11:10:00 PM

Thanks for all the replies

Thumper Dunker · January 03, 2014, 12:28:00 AM

QuoteOriginally posted by Orion:
A static tip recurve isn't going to give you much, if any, performance increase over a proper length severe r/d hybrid, or a standard recurve, for that matter.

At a short draw length, you could actually lose performance with a static limb bow because you may not fully open the tips at full draw.

Matching bow length to draw length, i.e., shorter bow for shorter draw length, will yield a little more performance regardless of design type. Of course, a low strand count high performance string will also bump up the performance of any bow.

Other design features also come into play. A bow with a lot of early load will probably work best for you, regardless of the shape of the tips. Good luck in your search.

What he said.

January 03, 2014, 03:49:00 AM

Frank Eicholtz used to make a static recurve. He told me that they were draw length specific, but great shooters. I would bet with some modern design advances that if one was designed to match the shooter, it could very well be a very quick bow.

katman · January 03, 2014, 07:16:00 AM

Orion gives good information. Some bowyers are known to modify there bow during build to maximize performance for the individuals draw length, 'custom' as pavan alluded to. (You have already talked with one warden415). Not just with a shorter bow but with limb layup and riser modifications. This can give what Orion refers to as early load and a shorter working limb for short draw archers.