HH BUG GOT ME - Part Two!

mellonhead · April 06, 2014, 06:55:00 PM

Can someone tell me the difference between the standard grip on a HHA bow and a wedge grip? I am new to Hill bows and Just traded into a Big 5. The grip has the profile of an egg with the small end towards the rear. I really like the grip, curious if its a wedge or standard. Thanks.

Toby

lbshooter · April 07, 2014, 09:11:00 AM

THe grip that you have is referred to as a wedge shape.It is quite common for this shape to be slightly dished as well.

April 07, 2014, 10:17:00 AM

If that Big 5 grip has a rounded egg shape with a slight bulbous look, it is a Kramer.

mike g · April 07, 2014, 10:41:00 AM

It could also be the take down grip.
My big 5 has what Craig calls his small take down, with slight dish....
My bow is not a take down, it just has the grip.

Paul_R · April 07, 2014, 11:12:00 AM

The way I understand it a fat egg is a standard grip. A skinny elongated egg is a wedge. Technically speaking. ...

April 07, 2014, 03:18:00 PM

A couple of close up pics would get you a definitive answer.

mellonhead · April 08, 2014, 07:52:00 PM

I called HHA tonight and they told me it was a wedge grip. This is my first HHA bow and only my second Hill style bow. I really like the grip. It really locates the hand well. I was struggling with the grips on these bows for awhile and the wedge style helped me locate my hand better. My extreme nock high issue is gone. Its now back to my same old nock high issue I was born withh!!!!!! It has been a bit if a journey learning how to shoot these bows, but I'm determind to make them work.

Toby

alex321 · April 09, 2014, 03:28:00 PM

QuoteOriginally posted by mellonhead:
I called HHA tonight and they told me it was a wedge grip. This is my first HHA bow and only my second Hill style bow. I really like the grip. It really locates the hand well. I was struggling with the grips on these bows for awhile and the wedge style helped me locate my hand better. My extreme nock high issue is gone. Its now back to my same old nock high issue I was born withh!!!!!! It has been a bit if a journey learning how to shoot these bows, but I'm determind to make them work.

Toby

Toby, now that you know, maybe you could enlighten us too with a picture? That would be much appreciated.

Cheers
Alex

Kmurray · April 10, 2014, 07:35:00 PM

I'm getting there... I know it's only been a few weeks, but I think I'm getting the hang of this Hill bow!

First week was full of fletching cutting my knuckle on my bow hand; And my forearm, wow.. it was ABUSED! However a few modifications to my grip and now I only get a slight "kiss" when I do something wrong. Great training aid!! ha ha!! (learning how to fletch an arrow resolved the knuckle issue on my bow hand)

Anyway, here's a little group in my back yard.. it's only about 12/13yrds but at least I can now get my arrows to fly well and go where I want them to (generally speaking).

I'm shooting XX75's that are too stiff, (500's) but it's all my local shop had that was close to being adequate for my short draw and light bow.I ordered some 175gr field points and trimmed them to 26.75" and they fly pretty pretty damn impressive when I do my part... I can't see nothing but nock when it all comes together..

katman · April 13, 2014, 07:37:00 AM

Just giving a heads up, Kirk at Bigfoot bows is about to start #001 in the Stealth bow in about a week or so. This is something that has been in the works a while and will look much like a classic hill strung but give better performance. Plan on a build along on a separate thread showing the details of what goes into this design to make it so. I am also posting this in the r/d D bow thread. Thanks and keep an eye out for the build along.

Shinken · April 13, 2014, 05:04:00 PM

QuoteOriginally posted by Paul_R:

That is a *great* lookin' LH Morning Star Paul! You did good with that beaver....

I can barely wait for James to glue up my LH Morning Star!

Keep the wind in your face!

Shoot straight, Shinken

Goshawkin · April 15, 2014, 08:44:00 AM

QuoteOriginally posted by Kmurray:
However a few modifications to my grip and now I only get a slight "kiss" when I do something wrong.

Guess everyone is different, when the string hits my arm guard at my wrist, I know I did it right.

Rob DiStefano · April 15, 2014, 05:58:00 PM

QuoteOriginally posted by katman:
Just giving a heads up, Kirk at Bigfoot bows is about to start #001 in the Stealth bow in about a week or so. This is something that has been in the works a while and will look much like a classic hill strung but give better performance. Plan on a build along on a separate thread showing the details of what goes into this design to make it so. I am also posting this in the r/d D bow thread. Thanks and keep an eye out for the build along.

be aware that if there is *ANY* snake in the unbraced limbs it is *NOT* an american flat longbow in the "hill tradition".

afl limbs can only be dead straight, or slightly reflexed, or slightly back set. anything else will instantly make the bow a hybrid r/d.

i will add ...

the mild r/d longbow that braces to a classic longbow "D" shape has been around for many years. the first commercial one was "the edge" built by jim & buddy of 21st century longbows (i had two). this bow was a bonafide "ringer" that won the ifaa *traditional longbow* world champs, and should never have been allowed in the competition. its performance was a light year beyond all the hill styles used competitively.

these dayze, there are lots of mild r/d classic "D" longbows available. none have anything to do with afl hill longbows.

katman · April 15, 2014, 06:45:00 PM

Could not agree more with you Rob, this new bow is not a afl, Kirk tells me it will be a r/d braced to D that really performs.

Just wanted to make sure all the 'hill' lovers also new about this.

Thanks for the info on the edge.

Paul_R · April 15, 2014, 07:59:00 PM

You tell 'em Rob!

So let it be written!

katman · April 16, 2014, 06:50:00 AM

Thanks for the chuckle Paul, when did Rob shave his head?

April 16, 2014, 11:38:00 AM

A bit of cross thread sales tactics, I see.

katman · April 16, 2014, 11:49:00 AM

If there is a problem with anything I posted please let me know.

April 16, 2014, 12:49:00 PM

Rob mentioned the 21st Century bow. I had high expectations of that bow as I did with the Stotler. With the Stotler, I had handling issues when hunting. With the 21st Century, I needed to make some kind of a timing adjustment to my hunting shots, that proved difficult for me. Although I prefer the fastest shooting afl bows I can find and there is not all that much difference in arrow speeds between them and the three snaky longbows I own at my draw length, but for us bent bow arm guys, if you put a bit fur or feathers and speed on the target, that final little bit of timing and the ability of the bow to absorb a chunky hard release becomes more important than a few feet per second. The difference between a near miss and a solid hit is a big deal to a cottontail.

ScouterMike · April 16, 2014, 01:43:00 PM

Agreed Pavan, when the target is still and is not going to move allowing lots of time then those touchy feely snaky bows are great. The ASLs however just seem to make those quick targets easier to hit.