Longer shafts will shoot better.Period.I draw 27" an I used to cut my arrows 29".I was an ok shooter.A couple of days before I decided to stain and fletch a bunch of 65-70 spinned ash arrows that I had and I decided to leave them uncut at 32".OH my my..They shoot perfect out of my 70# recurve ,my 65# recurve,heck even my 55 pound hybrid longbow.For the record I have only made 4 arrows out of the dozen in which two have 125 grain field tip and two 125 grain 2 blade.I shoot my 3d deer and pig right above the shoulder at 20 yards almost every time.It is crazy..Try longer shafts and you will be a believer too.And one more thing.Don't be spine crazy..

I hear ya,  I shoot longer shafts and they all seem to shoot pretty good no matter the spine or bow weight. I use alot of 65-70lb shafts and use them in bows from 45#-60#.  I also draw 27".

very interesting, maybe you where over spined before, need to try this

do the same thing . . . but I draw just under 30" so with tapers I have about 3/4" ahead of the riser for gloved finger clearance.  ;-)

I draw 28", and leave all my arrows at 32".  I use 1 arrow setup (60-65#) for 3 different bows.  I don't understand it, but sometimes it just ain't worth figuring out.  Just go with it.

Same here and they fly amazing

I draw 26" and cut my arrows to 30". Have done it for years. If you are calculating spine you have to subtract 5# per inch over 28" to get an effective spine weight.

I always shoot full length.  On any type if shaft. Im glad to know someone else that does this

QuoteOriginally posted by el greco:
Longer shafts will shoot better.Period.

"Period"??  com'on

I believe the only thing you discovered is that you were shooting over spined arrows. Which is a very common thing among trad archers

A long shaft that is not tuned well with your set-up will not shoot as well as a shorter arrow that is....tuning is tuning....

QuoteOriginally posted by Guru:
 

QuoteOriginally posted by el greco:
Longer shafts will shoot better.Period.

"Period"??  com'on

I believe the only thing you discovered is that you were shooting over spined arrows. Which is a very common thing among trad archers

A long shaft that is not tuned well with your set-up will not shoot as well as a shorter arrow that is....tuning is tuning.... [/b]

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I draw a hair over 26" and my arrows are 27" bop.I paper tune or bare shaft to figure out the spine and they fly like darts. I'm sure I could get longer arrows to fly great as well.Would be a way to add more weight too,but I've shot 27" arrows for 25 years now and I think the longer arrows would really mess up my sight picture.If you're shooting better with them,they're the ones to use!  

I find that very strange. If those arrows are spined 65/70 and you leave them 32" long your actual spine is 45/50 with a 125 gr head. For a 70# and 65# bow you should be way under spined. Arrows are spined on a 28" center therefore leaving them long would weaken the spine.

I agree that long arrow shoot better for most because almost all traditional archers use arrows that are overspined. A lot of this comes from bare shafting with clean release shooting the bow vertical etc then when shooting normal with a deep hook and canted bow and a lil short drawing the arrows are to stiff for normal use. Bare shaft but leave em a lil weak works for me.

I think you stumbled a more appropriately spined arrow for your bows.  Good for you.  Now go out and shoot.....

Agreed.  I tend to agree with Guru, but Danny makes a good point.  Regardless, you found an arrow that apparently shoots well out of your bow.  Length really has little to do with, or put another way, you found a spurious correlation.    

QuoteOriginally posted by ddauler:
shooting the bow vertical etc then when shooting normal w

Exactly why I tune while shooting the way I shoot,with the bow canted. I just adjust the left/right ,up/down results to that angle.Makes no sense to me to tune the bow while shooting it differently than how I'm going to shoot it when I'm done. If I hold the bow vertical there is no way around changing my form some to keep my eye over the arrow.

Ever seen those Amazon tribes on TV shooting bows? They draw to the front of their face and their arrows always seem to be like 4 foot long. Must be somethin to it, as I'm sure none of them own a spine tester.    :D

Actually I think it's the same effect as EFOC. I have made a lot of cane arrows and put fairly long forshaft on them with the same result. I also know when my son was young he could shoot my 60-65 woodies out of a 25 lb bow with a foot of shaft hanging out and they shot perfect.

Alot of guys short draw when actual shooting at something...but not when tuning/testing....therefore leaving shafts weak by leaving them long works for guys shooting less actual poundage than they think.

A short arrow is inherently easier to tune because there is less shaft to flex coming out of paradox

What Guru said........

I also think I was overspinned.I draw 27 so right there my 65 and 70 pounds bow become 62 and 67 pounds.Then sometimes the release and other factors affect the poundage which calls for lower spinned arrows.Anyway,thank you everybody for your opinions,what matters is I have found my perfect set up.