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D shaped longbow without hand shock?

Started by Gregg S, October 07, 2012, 06:37:00 PM

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Gregg S

I like the looks of the Hill bows but my shoulder doesn't like the hand shock. Any suggestions on a 66" or 68" longbow that has the D shape when strung but is easier on your shoulder?

Rossco7002

Try a Miller or Schulz all bamboo / no glass model. Very soft in the hand. I've heard good things said about the Toelke Super D as well.
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J. Holden

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Charlie Lamb

"Hand shock" hurts your "shoulder"?
  :confused:
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Charlie

Red Tailed Hawk

Have you looked at the hill bug thread. their is a lot of great info there. I shoot a hill tembo "which is my go to bow" and do not notice the hand shock that some others do. The way you grip the bow has alot to do with it.

A low wrist grip and bent bow arm can really help. There are many mild reflex deflex bows that will string up to a d shape. I like the abbott bows but when it's time to make meat I take the hill.
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Ben Maher

Liberty Contender is a D shape that has a touch of RD ... wonderful bow by a great bowyer .
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floodman

Yep I agree Hand shock CAN hurt your shoulder,You never seen waves on a beach or ripples on a pound,shock travel even to your back...That is why I had ti go to plan "B"..R/D

Goshawkin

I had a Herb Meland NightHawk,mild r/d that braced at a "D". Very sweet shooter,almost hurt to sell it. Funny thing is I've sold off almost all my r/d longbows and recurves to buy Hill style bows.To each his own I guess.

DannyBows

String-Follow is the best I've shot in the Hill style. I have a Northern Mist Shelton that is a sweet shooter and haven't noticed any 'shock'.

Nate Steele at BamaBows makes straight limbed bows that are shock free too. Nice bows.

I just got a 66" 'SparrowHawk' from Vince at Mohawk Bows. It's a mild R/D that strings up to a D-Shape. Absolutely dead in hand. It's an incredible bow. 5 lams of Boo. It's so smooth it feels 5 pounds lighter than it's actual draw weight. Mines a 2pc. I had it in 4 weeks from the day I ordered it. Vince's work is flawless and the bow is a tack-driver. I was shooting golf-ball sized groups at 13 yards the first shooting session with her. I got Bocote with brown glass, which makes for a beauty of a bow.

I got the Sparrowhawk with a locator grip, but Vince offers a straight grip also. I highly recommend a Mohawk, I think it would be just what you are needing.
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Gregg S

Thanks for the suggestions, I'll check into each of them. I had a torn rotator and even shooting a recurve I could feel it in my shoulder. It's been a year since my surgery and my recovery has been very good. I don't feel anything now when shooting a recurve but I also don't want to over stress it. I just really like the look of that D shape longbow. I'll check them out.

Charlie Lamb

I know I came off like a smart ass in my first post, but I thought there might be something else going on.

Just be careful with your shooting regime and don't overdue it whichever bow you choose. I'd suggest you also don't push the draw weight end of things.
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Charlie

awbowman

Toelke Super D is as dead in the hand as any D.  OH, and shoot a heavy arrow
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LongStick64

I think the problem when handling a Hill bow is to have a natural bow arm, any forced extension will result in a more felt shot. Try a natural bow arm. Raise your arm up to point at something in your line of sight, you don't hyper extend your arm.

As for Hill style bows, If you can find a Shultz Old Favorite, buy it. These bows tend to have some string follow due to the fact they do not have any glass backing. The string follow helps soften then shot. Another bow is a Shrew Hill, with it's tiny tips and wedge grip, there is hardly any felt shock.
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Jim Wright

You will find a Toelke Super D to feel more like a slight pulse upon release than the "thump" associated with many of the Hill styles. In addition they are unusually quick and quieter than regular quiet.

ron w

Toelke Super "D", Hill Halfbreed string follow, Northern Mist Whisper......also learn to hold this type of bow the correctly, not trying to be a wise guy but it does make a great deal of difference how you hold and what you feel upon release. Heavy arrows from the bows above [that are on my rack] result in just a pleasant thump on release.....
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Gregg S

No problem Charlie and good advice worth listening to. Thanks to everyone else, also alot of good advice and suggestions.

Steelhead

Maybe something with a little more mass weight would help with a tender shoulder.Not to mention elbow,wrist etc.
Maybe a bow like a 21st Century Edge or Stotler or similar types that have larger risers and still string up in a D shape.Despite a somwhat aggressive limb.
I think a mild R&D like a Great Northern Critter Gitter or Berry Taipan/Appollo/Renassiance might be worth a look.
A heavy arrow can help and a skinny string with wool puffs or even a quiver attached to the bow can tame some felt handshock.

khardrunner

I've had labral repair done and it is likely torn again.. no issues with Hill style in my bow shoulder.
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Hud

Rotor Cuff issues are common in some sports and archery and bowhunting is one.  Signs of RC impingment usually show up when you lift your arm to shoulder level or above.  Any discomfort in the shoulder and joints should be checked out by a doctor and physical therapist. Good luck.
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BWD

Most mild r/d models help to some extent. Plus, you should get a little more zip pound for pound, and can get by with a slightly shorter bow, if that makes any difference to you.
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