QuoteOriginally posted by bayhunter:
ive never seen blood trails like the pictures people are posting from a 2-blade broadhead, those are incredible!   :eek:  

I good heart shot with a scary sharp 2 blade drains em out quick.     That was one of my favorite blood trails.   :cool:

Yep, the 160 grain Snuffer with a long aluminum adaptor, or even the 125 grain Snuffer with a 75 grain adaptor.  Both work extremely well!  Thicker skinned critters, I like the Wensel Woodsman with a 75 grain adaptor.

I've used a lot of different broadheads in my 56 years of bow hunting, 2, 3 and 4 blade, but I keep coming back to the big 2 blade heads. For the last several years I've been using the Ace Super Express 200 gr. It's strong, fly's well and sharpens easily, what more could you ask of a head?

 

... and we all know that how much blood left on the trail and how long the trail is depends a lot on where the heck the arrow hit too!

I use the steelforce phathead right bevel 225 grain bh and haven't needed to trail the turkey or black bear I got with them. Both went down within eyesight of shot. Will be trying the new 200 grain werewolf from eclipse this year. Just ordered some.

Here is a Werewolf kill from last year, prototype head, not the best shot placement, but an awesome bloodtrail.  Not that I had to trail it, he dropped in 40 yards.



FYI-He jumped the string, they do that at 10 yards when they are looking at you.

125gr Zwickey Eskimo with a 75gr glue on steel adapter, works for me.

Here's a trail from my bear last year shot with a Razorcap 3 blade.

Not too hijack this thread at all, but how slow are you guys' arrows going with 200gr up front? not that its that important, i believe silence is much more attractive but what i mean is does your arrows nose dive after about 20-25 yards?

I shoot 225 up front and it makes my 500s weigh 505 and out of a 51# at my draw recurve they are smoking fast with 21% FOC and are flat shooting way out there.  I can group very well at 30 but unless its a hog with its nose in the mud I ain't loosing an arrow at a large animal past 20, pushed that limit on a semi alert deer and she changed ends and ducked by the time the arrow got to her.

"does your arrows nose dive after about 20-25 yards?"

My 2 cents is weight is weight. 200 grains up front effects trajectory NO different than an equal amount (amount between the two heads compared) added to the total shaft.

Also depends on what you call "nose diving". I shoot very heavy total arrow weights for my bows and yep, past 25 there is a pretty pronounced drop but it isnt the head weight alone that causes that.

That said, the number of shots I have had, for four decades, over 20 yards I could count on one hand.

200 grain heads are definately not on most 3D arrows, nor meant to be, IMHO.

Some like myself, like a heavier arrow and maybe even measure the FOC for hunting arrows but for whitetail........all is good. Never found a combo that wouldnt work placed right.

For those thinking a heavy HEAD causes nose diving, they need only to shoot two arrows close in weight with one being more head weight and the other being more shaft weight.

I used to have some VERY light carbons (like 5.7 gpi) with 350-375 grains of total head weight.

They flew just like any other arrow I had of the same total mass, trajectory wise anyway.

Heavy arrows do hit hard. Do we ALL need it? Probably not. As I said, Ive seen about every combo in imagination take out a whitetail and no experience with elk personally.

I just like heavy arrows and big heavy heads.

I can see em fly. They make for a VERY quiet bow without much help at all and when they hit........they keep moving, regardless of what I hit on a deer and cant imagine any other result on any other big game, in the US anyway. There isnt a bone on a deer I havent shot cleanly though, repeatedly in some cases.

Again, my shots ARE close, and believe most deer hunters (and have seen polls about such) also have mostly taken shots under 20 yards as a "norm". I HAVE however, taken deer out to 43 yards with heavy arrows, so I am not saying they wont "work" otherwise.

Just takes a bit more practice out "there" regardless of arrow weight, IMHO. Having always shot barebow, I have never worried about "trajectory". Simply using the same weight arrows .......ALL the time....."builds in" some kind of automatic system that I cannot explain and repeated shots at various (UNKNOWN) distances just fine tunes my ability to put r there when its time to do so.

Using sights, and having to prejudge distance is the only place Ive ever gave credit to a "flatter trajectory" being any kind of advantage simply BECAUSE the ability to judge distances creates (an additional) human error to over come.

Some here will understand, some will argue the point but I wont, sorry. When I "eyeball" a shot, I know ONLY that it is IN range.......or NOT purely confidence wise.

Ask any basketball player who just got "nothing but net" on a long shot how far he thought that shot was ***before*** shooting.     Same principal applies.

IF I attempted to prejudge distance first?  I PROMISE you......I would miss, light, medium OR heavy arrows included.

God Bless

200 grain VPA terminator I shoot the 175 and have never seen better bloodtrails.

Well said SlowBowke