Hope you can find a home for the Hickory staves, biggest factor for me when offered hickory is if the leaves are out so I can slip the bark off, me personally I would rather chase a ring in Osage any day than try and debark hickory thats been seasoned with the bark on. Still sounds like a great chance for someone needing hickory staves. Thanks for putting it out there, hopefully the right person will see it.

An excellent book, grab one if you find it.

Quote from: Pat B on Today at 04:28:47 PMYeah, readjust the nocking point would probably do it. I never understood the three under thing but I shoot instinctively and just look, draw, anchor and release. It's the most simple way for me and that's the way I like it.   
 I hope we can find someone to take these staves. It would be a shame if they got used for BBQ. 

Ya... that's what I'm hoping for too. A few years ago my son in law told me that a gal he as working for part time in the summer maintaining a 60 acre section of land was setting on a huge bunch of Osage that had been setting in a shed for 15 years. Originally she wanted to make outdoor furniture out of it, and hauled all the way up from California. But the project never happened and she wanted to clear out the shed. Said I could have it for bow wood if I came and picked it up.  Unfortunately there wasn't even one log that was suitable for stave wood. It was so twisted up and checked,  With splits in it. I used most of it for firewood. I think I still have a few pieces I could make some  riser blocks out of in the wood shed, but that's it...was a crying shame.  The stuff burns like coal in the wood stove, and throws sparks cutting it with a chain saw. Damn that stuff is hard.

No you don't have to pre order but as Pat said see Miss Joanie as soon as you can when you get there, they don't last long usually. Also here is the schedule of events if anyone is interested.
 Pappy

Length wise I went 48" with a 1" form.

Quote from: Collett5149 on Today at 09:07:49 AMI need to downsize my longbow design to make bows for 10 & 8 yr old nieces.
I'm thinking 15-20# ish, but don't have a starting point for bow length.
Any advice is greatly appreciated.
Thanks, Andy

I did that for my granddaughters and took the approach of picking a length and reducing all components on a percentage basis and built on a percent reduced form.  it worked fine BUT I should have reduced the forward taper rate also.  However,  they were good bows and like Kirk says, they outgrew them pretty fast.

Yeah, readjust the nocking point would probably do it. I never understood the three under thing but I shoot instinctively and just look, draw, anchor and release. It's the most simple way for me and that's the way I like it.   
 I hope we can find someone to take these staves. It would be a shame if they got used for BBQ. 

Quote from: Pat B on Today at 02:19:55 PMI posted it on PA and I'll go back and include his name and phone number. I did put your email address on the first posting.
 I appreciate your comment about self bowyers. I used to be pretty good but now I'm just old. 

I'm right there with you Pat... this getting old chit ain't for sissy's.

It kind of cracks me up when someone asks me to tiller a glass or carbon backed bow for 3 under.     The tillering on a laminated bow is pretty much done with the limbs shape, taper rates, and different wedge configurations if the limbs width profiles are the same.  Oh sure... you can weaken top or bottom limb by sanding glass and change the tiller measurements. But that is NOT tillering a bow.... Tillering is carefully adjusting the way the limbs are bending, and where they are bending and balancing things out nicely.... The tiller measurements are just that.... Measurements.

But when the customer asks for 3 under tillering, I just say ok....   

I posted it on PA and I'll go back and include his name and phone number. I did put your email address on the first posting.
 I appreciate your comment about self bowyers. I used to be pretty good but now I'm just old. 

Quote from: Collett5149 on Today at 11:25:37 AMThanks, Kirk. I was hoping you'd write with some help.

I've built my share of youth bows, and have built some pretty cool miniature recurve bows too that are only 36" in length. But... they were labor of love bows, and i never sold them, and never will. They require as much work as a full sized bow.[