Quote from: EHK on December 28, 2025, 05:31:58 AMThe Toelkes use micarta in most of their risers, so I would guess they contribute to the performance and lack of noise.  Both of my Whips have micarta risers and are completely dead in the hand and pretty darn close to silent.

I think you will find all Dan's bows are well balanced and dead in the hand regardless of whether he uses G-10 or Micarta.  The real advantage to an epoxy base composite like this is strength, and adding mass weight to the bow. Those 2 piece bows that Dan builds needs that extra strength the Micarta has using the bow bolt connection design he uses.

check it out.

https://montanabows.blogspot.com/p/one-and-two-piece-bow-designs.html

I use a G-10 Garolite FRP in a lot of my bows. Typically i use it for an I-beam construction that provides almost zero flex in the riser even using very heavy draw weight limbs. here is the product. Check the strength ratings on this stuff.. Its stronger than steel.

https://kmac-plastics.net/g10-fr4-sheets.htm

I also use it on my all my ILF risers as well as my Sasquatch Special. yup... its expensive. but it mills excellent and really stiffens up a riser.

here is a link to the bows page on my website that has photos of how i use it in my risers. just scroll down to the riser design options to the  "I-beam" option.

https://www.bigfootbows.com/b/bows/bows.html

As of right now I will be in the Missoula area on a bear hunt the 16th - 24th. I might try and swing by!

Already got my ticket for the shoot and RV site,

Quote from: Steelhead on Today at 01:36:20 AMI have had multiple 62 inch and multiple 60 inchers and one 58 incher.My 1st one was about 20 years ago in all glass.I have had all the models.All glass,glass with carbon center lam,chimera,double carbon and the tripple carbons.

I like the 60 incher a lot and its gonna be stable with the dark matter riser and tripple carbon limbs.Your draw will work well with the 60 incher.I did have the stippling done with combination of larger and smaller stippling.Looks excellant!

I really like the Selway Mini slide on longbow quiver on that bow in black rawhide for the Dark Matter and tripple carbon model.I had red stitching on that quiver that I had custom built for that bow.Holds 4 arrows with plenty of room for 4 broaheads of any size.I had the centaur logo laser etched onto the quiver in red.That looked awesome!Think about it for the bow quiver if you use one.Its my favorite on that bow.

I will look into that. I have the Selway leather slide-ons on both my recurves. They're hard to beat. Could you tell much difference in the 62" and the 60" models as far as accuracy goes? I was hoping people like you that has owned both lengths would provide their experience with both. Thanks for the advice.

I have had multiple 62 inch and multiple 60 inchers and one 58 incher.My 1st one was about 20 years ago in all glass.I have had all the models.All glass,glass with carbon center lam,chimera,double carbon and the tripple carbons.

I like the 60 incher a lot and its gonna be stable with the dark matter riser and tripple carbon limbs.Your draw will work well with the 60 incher.I did have the stippling done with combination of larger and smaller stippling.Looks excellant!

I really like the Selway Mini slide on longbow quiver on that bow in black rawhide for the Dark Matter and tripple carbon model.I had red stitching on that quiver that I had custom built for that bow.Holds 4 arrows with plenty of room for 4 broaheads of any size.I had the centaur logo laser etched onto the quiver in red.That looked awesome!Think about it for the bow quiver if you use one.Its my favorite on that bow.

Quote from: Michael Guran on February 25, 2026, 09:10:33 PMThis is timely because my build should be coming up in a couple of months and I've had some of the same questions.  I've been debating between the 60 and 62 for my 28"" draw length.  I'm leaning toward the 60 because I've talked to a couple of guys who have had several Centaurs and said that the 60" was their favorite, and I don't have any bows that short.  Good luck with the build.

Thanks! Like you most have recommended the 60". A few said 62" or even longer. I too am learning towards the 60" model. Good luck on your build as well.

Funny... I started to list everything, and I realized I'm not as much of a minimalist as I thought.

But I'm usually several miles from the truck.

Quote from: 4dogs on February 25, 2026, 11:59:26 PMSame goes for the accuracy between them too. I think that your grip has more to do with that especially with this type of bow.

Thank you that helps a lot.

Same goes for the accuracy between them too. I think that your grip has more to do with that especially with this type of bow.

For a 28" draw I would bet about anything I could blinfold 99.9% of archers and have them shoot a 60 incher and a 62 incher and they couldnt tell the difference.  I believe Jim is making a 64 inch too now...I have not had one of those