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HH BUG GOT ME - Part Two!

Started by Rob DiStefano, September 18, 2013, 09:27:00 PM

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kestimator

Sam....You and I have been obviously discussing this of late...
I'd say...for me...#2 proper arrow for the specific bow...then #1 as Howard said something like "at the shot both hands do nothing"....meaning for me...the bow hand (most importantly) and the release hand stay steady with commitment to the shot...pretty rock steady follow through...#3 I guess would be after seeing that you can "do this"...staying confident and committed to seeing growing success with this type of tackle and style...
...hope you don't mind me listing out of order  :)  
I don't mean to start a hoorah or nothing...but for me...shooting Hill style requires more focus and concentration on form than shooting other types of LBs and RCs....contrary to what Howard and others have espoused...
I'd offer that once some amount of proficiency is reached the "rewards" will match or surpass the effort involved...
Have a nice day!
Kevin

Looper

Pavan, could you post some pictures of the bows you have finished from blanks?

cahaba

Sam
Like kestimator developing a rock solid bow hand has helped me the most. Many times you can make a bad release or other shooting mistake and still make a good hit if your bow arm is steady enough.

The second thing for me would be spending time on the blank bale. It helped me develop a better swing draw. Mr. Hill shot blank bale a lot his whole shooting career for a reason.

Third thing would be making sure I have proper back tension on each shot.
cahaba: A Choctaw word that means
"River from above"

I have posted two of them a yew about 55 at 26" and my half breed about 59 at 26". I think they out there somewhere.  I cannot take new ones right now, when one drops a digital camera the battery cover breaks off  and flies away.

Blaino

QuoteOriginally posted by SAM E. STEPHENS:
If you could give the top 3 things that helped improve your shooting of HH bows what would they be. I have been reading through part one ( about half way done ) and have read all of part two of this thread. I know how to shoot a bow just wondering what helps you as an individual as I like to try stuff to see if some of it might help my shooting along......

,,,Sam,,,
Look at pictures of Hill at full draw. The bowstring is making contact with his eyebrow. Joel Templin of JET Archery pointed this out to me. It made a big differance for me.
"It's not the trophy, but the race. It's not the quarry,
but the chase."

two4hooking

#1 Stay flexible and fluid - especially the bow arm elbow..a bend.  Do not lock it!

#2 - Shoulder in line with the target, back and low

#3 - See number 1!

ron w

QuoteOriginally posted by two4hooking:
#1 Stay flexible and fluid - especially the bow arm elbow..a bend.  Do not lock it!

#2 - Shoulder in line with the target, back and low

#3 - See number 1!
And.......#1 grip, #2 grip, and #3 grip
In the beginner's mind there are many possibilities. In the expert's there are few...So the most difficult thing is always to keep your beginner's mind...This is also the real secret of the arts: always be a beginner.  Shunryu Suzuki

You guys have it all wrong, it's all about eye brow control and lip snarl curl, but you need to ask yourself what is the tip segment of my bowhand thumb doing?  With different bows it does different things and I don't know why.

Green

As important as any form item.....don't over bow yourself.
ASL's, Selfbows, and Wood Arra's
Just because you are passionate about something, doesn't mean you don't suck at it.

Jim Picarelli

I just picked up this older David Miller on a trade, 68" 60@28. She's a little heavy but nothing I won't be able to work into. She sure does shoot nice!
 

 
67" Hill Tembo, 50@27
67" Hill Half Breed, 53@27
66" Hill Redman, 48@27
66" Hill Cheetah, 55@27
66" Hill Big Five, 50@27

kestimator

Good looking Miller there Jim!
Even better group of arrows jammed in that target!!!  :)  Good shooting!!
Have a nice day!
Kevin

jeffg

Ok. I shot my 50# HH today it shoots 170 @10gpp. which is great. The person behind the bow needs to find the secret on how to shoot it accurately. I am going to name her lighting! because I shoot like lightening with it " I never hit the same place twice". It does have more of a 60s recurve grip to it instead of the traditional Hill style. Maybe that is it.
66" Nothern Mist American
68" Miller Split Bamboo
54" Java Man Helms Deep

First off, you got your self a quick one. Second, try to visualize your draw without shooting, so that you see/feel that the last 6 inches is lined up to hit your target.  Close range shooting can often be more confusing if actual point placement,(secondary aiming) is used at close range practice distances.  Getting a sense that the draw is on target with the end of the draw has been a lot easier when teaching new people this Hill thing.

Ray Lyon

Hey guys. Thought I'd come play on this thread too. I pulled out my 1977 Howard Hill Tembo from the rack in the basement and have been having fun flinging some Paul Jalon Elite cedar arrows from it. Wow they shoot nice from it but had a good idea they would after shooting them from Roger Norris Northern Mist Whisper longbow at camp this fall. I haven't shot my Hill in about ten years, but I've got a Northern Mist on order after Steve Turay came to camp and hung out with us for an afternoon. I loved shooting Rogers Whisper.  It was the first time using a reverse handle Hill style bow. Very well behaved and no bump on the shot.

I'm hoping to visit Steve at his shop in a month when I'm up there to watch my oldest daughter compete in a couple of cross country skiing races not far from Steve's shop. I think I need another bow rack for Iongbows!!!   :p    ;)
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MikeNova

Well my deer season will come to an end this Tuesday for me. One final chance to get one with a hill. Then I'm going to start trying for a pig.  Ray I got my woodies from Paul they are good shooting arrows sent they.

SAM E. STEPHENS

Good luck to ya , I will be out myself after a deer with my Big Five for the last few week of our Tx season.....

,,,,Sam,,,,
HUNT OLD SCHOOL

I got a phone call, I do not know if he is a TGer or not. Anyway, he had a sliver pop out on one of his all bamboo bows.  I do not know which make it was, he has them from several different bowyers. I told him to glue it down with the running kind of super glue and maybe pinch that down with wraps of tape.  Then maybe mask off short sections, sand and then serve it with something like light Fireline that is coated with epoxy. Did I tell him right or did I tell him wrong?

Brianlocal3

Went stumping the last two days. It's cold and that drained my batteries quickly. But I managed to get some footage. Bad quality but some nonetheless .
Shooting my JD BERRY MorningStar, ABSOLUTLY wonderful time. I did not spend time editing so it's a rough video, sorry

http://youtu.be/EUmwzkECRGI
JD Berry Taipan (original) 53@28 62"
Cascade mountain Brush Hawk 53@28 56"

Gordon Jabben

I enjoyed the video Brian.  Well here I am on the Hill site again.  For years, I have shot Hill style bows off and on.  I love shooting them but always go back to my R/D bow because I just shoot it slightly better.  I love the looks and feel of the D bows though and can't stay away from them for long.

ron w

Cool video......can't wait till my name comes up on Mr. Berry's list. I'll be having a Morningstar built also!
In the beginner's mind there are many possibilities. In the expert's there are few...So the most difficult thing is always to keep your beginner's mind...This is also the real secret of the arts: always be a beginner.  Shunryu Suzuki


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