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Hand shock hill style bows

Started by redant 60/65, December 21, 2010, 07:37:00 PM

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HATCHCHASER

The Toelke Super-D has the least amount of "shock" of any Hill style bow I have shot.  Even with "light arrows".  Forgiveness and quietness are the best qualities of a D-bow.  Grab the tip of a Recurve or even some hybrids and see how easy it is to manipulate the tip.  Now grab a hill style longbow and see if you can manipulate it.  There is your stability.  YMMV
It's not the arrival, it's the journey.

Bent Rig

the heavier the tips(overlays) adds to more handshock
Paul

Caddo

To each his own, I guess. I have a Louis Armbruster Zebra Grevy that is pure sweetness. I've also had a Wesly Special that was like an ax handle. It was either get rid of it or use it for a tree stake. I traded it and the guy that got thought it was the greatest thing since sliced bread. Go figure...

LD
"If your gonna kick a tiger in the butt, you better have a plan for dealing with his teeth!

David Mitchell

Yep, Caddo, I love my Wesley too. Nothing like an ax handle--just trying to picture that .  It's a finely made, delicate wand of a bow and great hog killin' machine.  Like it so much I bought four more Hills.  :saywhat:  

 
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dad

Its not hand shock! Its had vibe!

gobblegrunter

QuoteOriginally posted by RC:
I never understood the handshock thing.Grip it right with a heavy arrow and enjoy. I love them.RC
I don't know enough to say yes or no. (I voted "don't know") I will say though, that I agree 100% with RC on the hand shock subject. Maybe I'm just too new and inexperienced, but I don't know that I can even say I've ever experienced hand shock. Even in the compounds I used to shoot, hand shock was never even a consideration for me.    :dunno:
"It's not about inches or antlers..."     ~Bill Langer

KPaul

Just shot my first Hill today.A redman,53#@28,68".Strung it,tuned it,shot it and loved it.First true D long bow that I have shot.Not noticing a lot of  "handshock".Loved the feel.Loved the yew limbs.I'm hooked.
TGMM Family of the Bow

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GMASIUK

IMO Hill bows need to be shot with a heeldown grip. The mass weight is so low that the bow feels more alive than a recurve, I wouldn't say handshock I'd say alive feeling. Not a bad feeling, just different.

longbowben

54" Hoots 57@28
60" MOAB 60@28
Gold tip, 160gr Snuffer
TGMM Family of the Bow
USAF 90-96 69TH Bomb Squadron

Mudd

Does anyone have an "Ol Ben" Pearson they'd consider loaning me?

I want a refresher course in "HANDSHOCK....!"...lol

Plus it'll let me know if I have any teeth that need any work done to them..lol

God bless,Mudd
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QuoteOriginally posted by Mudd:
Does anyone have an "Ol Ben" Pearson they'd consider loaning me?

I want a refresher course in "HANDSHOCK....!"...lol

Plus it'll let me know if I have any teeth that need any work done to them..lol

God bless,Mudd
You just have to grip them right and they're smooth as butter!     :biglaugh:

David Mitchell

Mudd, unless you are prepared to pay a lot to your dentist to replace fillings, don't shoot an Ol' Ben!  Now that bow does have hand shock!  The one I had would give me a headache before I got around the range with it.
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Longbowben ...
does it count if its already Christmas here in Oz ?
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J.R.R TOLKIEN

I had one Big 5 89 pounds at my draw, that had more shock than all my others.  it was also slower than my others.  One day, it was a warm November day, the gnats were driving me crazy, so I got up to find somewhere the breeze could keep the gnats busy.  I started walking around, I got two pheasants on the wing, one rabbit sitting, one rabbit hopping away and a squirrel off a high branch.  I got to field dress five animals that day with my worst bow.  I guess there are things that count for more than a bump in the hand sometimes.

Carbon Jack

QuoteOriginally posted by pavan:
I had one Big 5 89 pounds at my draw, that had more shock than all my others.  it was also slower than my others.  One day, it was a warm November day, the gnats were driving me crazy, so I got up to find somewhere the breeze could keep the gnats busy.  I started walking around, I got two pheasants on the wing, one rabbit sitting, one rabbit hopping away and a squirrel off a high branch.  I got to field dress five animals that day with my worst bow.  I guess there are things that count for more than a bump in the hand sometimes.
Pavan, I agree with the bump in the hand comment. It never bothered me and I don't take it as a failing of the bow design.

I have a 90 pound bow built by Craig for me. It's red elm and 66 inches long. No longer at my age can I effectively shoot that thing but 20 years ago it would shoot heavy wooden arrows at 190fps through my chronograph. It did thump your hand and I loved it. Now in my early 50s I only shoot 55-60 pounds and use lighter arrows. I still enjoy a bit of "thump".

Jack

S C Mercer

I shot Hill styles for several seasons and the only time I noticed handshock was when the brace height was off.  Once I got the brace height dialed in and the proper arrow used, I feel absolutley no hand shock.  Just a smooth, quiet thump on release. Guys need to get the bow tuned and shoot the correct spine and weight arrows with Hill bows,,, JUST LIKE ANY OTHER BOW!  Steve

S C Mercer

I missed the Hills so much I sold my other bows and went back to my Hills,, for good this time!  Truly a very efficient hunting weapon.  I had to experiment with everything else to get a true perspective on it.  Once I had enough experiences with the other styles, I felt I had enough first hand experience to decide the Hills were the way to go for me.  Steve

longbowben

My first chance to shoot a Hill was today im impressed hard hitting.It has more handshock that my MOABs but i love it, now watch out does next week im looking for you.  :archer2:
54" Hoots 57@28
60" MOAB 60@28
Gold tip, 160gr Snuffer
TGMM Family of the Bow
USAF 90-96 69TH Bomb Squadron

Gerardo

Merry christmas Ben , and a happy new bow !!!!!
Gerardo Rodriguez

longbowben

54" Hoots 57@28
60" MOAB 60@28
Gold tip, 160gr Snuffer
TGMM Family of the Bow
USAF 90-96 69TH Bomb Squadron


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