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[mmisciag]

Going back to carbon. I like the way you are think'n.

Good to know you.

Martin

[Pepper]

Welcome.
This is a site that endures, it is well managed, and those here are among the best.
Looking forward to your posts,and thoughts on all traditional.

[Cyclic-Rivers]

Welcome to the Cyber Campfire!  You'll like it here.

[joe ashton]

welcome

[bendbig]

Welcome and hang on your in for the ride of your life here. The best site anywhere along with some of the best folks anywhere.  

[chanumpa]

Welcome to the gang.Good to have you aboard.

[Jack Whitmire Jr]

I used to  not shoot carbons until I realized how good they are . Welcome and enjoy .


Jack

[magnus]

Welcome to the Gang.

Keeping the Faith!
Magnus

[BOWMARKS]

Wecome aboard you will ejoy the ride!!

[TEX02]

Welcome aboard i love shooting carbon's.

[GRAYBEARD]

Tis the best place in cyberspace! Welcome!

[Ben Maher]

welcome ...
lots of people here shoot Hill style longbows with carbons ... and bow quivers ... and low stretch low count strings .
We are a pretty diverse bunch here and there lots of experience with all sorts of gear .

[Dick in Seattle]

Hi, Jack.    I'm a little late to the party, but welcome indeed.   I have to say I admire your mastery of carbon arrows.  I mastered Hills, but the carbon arrows beat me.   I came to the conclusion that they don't actually have spine... just attitude!   :^)

[Carbon Jack]

Originally posted by Dick in Seattle:
Hi, Jack.    I'm a little late to the party, but welcome indeed.   I have to say I admire your mastery of carbon arrows.  I mastered Hills, but the carbon arrows beat me.   I came to the conclusion that they don't actually have spine... just attitude!   :^)

Hello, Dick in Seattle. I used my own wooden arrows for years. Enjoyed making them as much as shooting them. About 25 years ago I really tried to make alloy arrows work. Mostly they were OK but I found them noisy for hunting in that they rang coming off the bow. Accuracy was good but not much better than good wood for me. Aluminum always seemed "dead" to me. I never found a spine that snapped to perfect flight like with my woodies.

I did a lot of indoor shooting for score and found the alloy arrows more accurate by a fair margin. The scores did not lie. Still, I hated shooting those dead-feeling alloy shafts that never recovered out of the bow quickly enough for me. Even though they scored well on paper, I hated them for hunting with broadheads. I like an arrow that gets online quickly and wood did this well.

Then I shot some of the early Beman carbons of very narrow diameter. Love at first flight. Those arrows seemed immune to bow weight or style. I could shoot those early Beman's out of all my bows with the accuracy of alloy and the quick recovery of wood.

More modern carbons of fatter diameter are even better in my experience. They are the ultimate in accuracy and leave my Hill bows (along with hybrids and recurves) like death rays without any tail wagging our hopping up or down. They seem to snap around the bow like magic and they are quiet like wood. I can't imagine ever using anything else.

Try a Beman 500 cut 1.5" over your draw length and screw in a 125gr point with the stock alloy insert. Don't mess around with weight forward nonsense. You do not need it and I feel it ruins carbon flight. The shafts are already very light. To put more than 150 grains out front destroys balance and turns the shaft into a wet noodle that oscillates way too much. Embrace the stiff shaft that is the carbon shaft.

As for hunting? On whitetail deer I shoot through all of mine with arrows under 400 grains. My normal Beman 500 with 3, five-inch fletch and 125gr vented 2-blade broadhead only weight 383 grains. They leave my Howard Hill bows of 60 pounds at about 210fps.

I do not worry about breaking bows. I've been doing this for 15 years and have never broken any bow of any make. In fact, I have not shot an arrow over 420 grains in over a decade. No problems with bows breaking.

Jack

[LookMomNoSights]

Welcome, neighbor!