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I can't figure this out HELP!! Update

Started by lpcjon2, April 07, 2010, 08:02:00 PM

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lpcjon2

Ok guys I shoot a Hill Tembo 70#@30 My arrows are 75-80 with 160gr up front and 31",They all shot great.Then I took the rubber whiskers off due to wear and added B Balls and checked the brace and the nock.all the arrows are shooting 4-5" low at 20yrds,I have tried to lower the nock by 1/4" and same result.I got my other bow 65#@30 and shot arrows that are tuned to it 70#@31 with 125gr,and I break nocks.I know its not my form,But I find myself trying to compensate for the drop.I don't want to do that .Any suggestions for what to do? Could it be the B Balls? I am totally stumped and frustrated.I thought it was me but it doesn't seem like it.
 I also changed to a 125gr head and didn't affect it at all.    :help:
Some people live an entire lifetime and wonder if they have ever made a
difference in the world, but the Marines don't have that problem.
—President Ronald Reagan

McDave

Did you happen to change the shelf material at the same time?  Going to a softer shelf material will sometimes drop the point of impact.  I use a Martin rug rest, and as it wears, my point of impact rises; when I replace it, my point of impact falls.

Or if you have a gap between your shelf material and the strike plate, is it possible that the arrow is settling too much into the gap?

The thing that strikes me as odd, and I have no explanation for, is why lowering your nock point wouldn't raise your point of impact.
TGMM Family of the Bow

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lpcjon2

I did not change the rest at all and there is no gap.It shot perfect before I changed the silencers.How far would be to far on lowering the nock point?
Some people live an entire lifetime and wonder if they have ever made a
difference in the world, but the Marines don't have that problem.
—President Ronald Reagan

Don Stokes

Are you sure you didn't change brace height when you changed the silencers? If it was just the change in string weight, lowering the point weight should have compensated, unless you had multiple sets of rubber silencers. In that case, 125's might not be light enough.
Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.- Ben Franklin

Ground Hunter

lpcjon2, does seem strange.  I know that when I have that problem I'm dropping my bow arm.  H

lpcjon2

Don I can check the brace again.should I try to lower it or raise it to bring the impact up.
Some people live an entire lifetime and wonder if they have ever made a
difference in the world, but the Marines don't have that problem.
—President Ronald Reagan

Enge

Could this have changed the tune to the point that the nock end of the arrow is now kicking off the rest and you need to raise the nocking point?

V/r Russ

lpcjon2

The brace height is 6 3/8 to the center of the string.And the arrows show no wear on the feathers.
Some people live an entire lifetime and wonder if they have ever made a
difference in the world, but the Marines don't have that problem.
—President Ronald Reagan

Rob DiStefano

heavier, slower string and more drag with the b balls ... maybe.
IAM ~ The only government I trust is my .45-70 & my Ol' Brown Bess

lpcjon2

Thanks guys I am going to put whiskers back on and see what happens.
Some people live an entire lifetime and wonder if they have ever made a
difference in the world, but the Marines don't have that problem.
—President Ronald Reagan

bolong

That's what I was going to reccommend.
bolong

ksbowman

Did you change your nock point by chance?  Ben
I would've taken better care of myself,if I'd known I was gonna live this long!

clayton95

In TBM a while back they had a test on different string silencers.  It I recall correctly the b-balls had a slightly higher speed by a few fps.  This could be part of the problem.  It also seems that your spine could be just close to too week and that might have pushed it over the edge.  When I switched to the b-ballls from the whiskers I noticed a difference in arrow tune.

lpcjon2

Ok first I got the B-Balls off and put the 160gr Heads back on.The got the brace to 6 3/8 to center of the string.Shot it and was about 2" low.I trimed my fletchngs(they were burned and a little long and high)down to a lower profile and adjusted the nock point and I am back in action.I think the B-Balls slowed it down and the big fletching slowed it some to.
Some people live an entire lifetime and wonder if they have ever made a
difference in the world, but the Marines don't have that problem.
—President Ronald Reagan


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