Lone Wolf Sit and Climb--No love loss here!

limbow · October 29, 2009, 09:38:00 AM

Bob,

How does it digest a 62" Longbow? Or a 62 curve for that matter. Is it trick to draw down on a whitetail? I assume not since you are recommending it, just curious though. Thanks.

Bob Morrison · October 29, 2009, 09:45:00 AM

Kevin, The only Modification I do on the Timbertall is I move the seat to the top rails on the top unit, so my knees are above even with the top rail. I also use 2 stabilizing straps between top and bottom units, But I do this on all climbing stands, I just feel more secure.

GMMAT · October 29, 2009, 10:01:00 AM

QuoteCompared to many other climbers the LW is just not as good when it comes to going up and down a tree.It does have many good qualities and I like mine for those reasons but I have had many other climbers that climb a lot better.jmo

If there's a better climber out there....I haven't seen or heard of it. I walk sometimes a mi. to stand....and the way this thing packs is worth a LOT.

Setting the platform? Easy at any height. I actually set mine level to begin with (makes it easier to climb) then adjust it when I get close to or at height. Sit on the climb bar (facing the tree) place a foot on each side of the platform, reach down and release the cam and there ya go. Simple.

I climb, "almost" exclusively. I bought my sit and climb last year....and I've been up in it approx. 130X, already. It took me 10-15 times to work out a "system" that works, though. Now? I wouldn't dream of switching. I DID order the hand climber upper for it, yesterday, though. I think it'll give me more clearance to shoot my recurve. If I still shot a compound, I'd never dream of changing uppers. No need to.

If your feet are under the straight portion of the bar as you climb.....you're doing it wrong. I wear 11's and I have NO ISSUES with mine. I typically climb with the sit and climb like I "thought" most did with the hand climber. I use my hands on the sides and push myself up with my forearms. I can get to height in less "bites" this way. Coming down? I'm not above placing the upper over my head and descending that way. I do this if I'm trying to get out in a hurry (if I think the deer I'm hunting hasn't gotten to my spot, yet....and it's dark).

I do ALL of this while connected to the tree, also. If I only climbed a few times a season.....I'd use my Summit. It's a lounge chair compared to the LW. But I rarely sit when I bowhunt....and the LW stands suit my needs just fine. If something happened to mine, today....I'd have another one ordered in a flash.

limbow · October 29, 2009, 10:43:00 AM

Thanks for the input Jeff. I am going to give this LW another try and apply the techniques that have been offered here. I think it deserves another shot!

Stinger · October 29, 2009, 10:54:00 AM

I have to second Bob's vote for the Timbertall. I have two of them and have used them for 4 years. The Baby Lite I have weighs just 12 pounds and is the easiest stand to carry in I have ever used. While my buddies are struggling with their heavy Summit's, I'm walking easy. You simply can't beat the ability to level both the seating portion and the foot portion. I am pretty good at guessing the taper of a tree from the ground, but for those times when I don't get it right, it really makes the sit comfortable when I can just level the thing out.

bswear · October 29, 2009, 11:18:00 AM

Like many have said, you can adjust the hand climber while in the air. However, make sure your buckles for the seat and platform are snapped together. Otherwise, if the platform slips away from you it could fall to the ground! Don't ask me how I know this. Also, it's a good idea to double check your harness first and cinch yourself tight to the tree.

waknstak IL · October 29, 2009, 11:36:00 AM

Limbow, thanks for posting this, Lots of good ideas.

Bob Morrison · October 29, 2009, 11:40:00 AM

Brent, I know how you know this :eek: I sell LW and TT. I used the LW sit and climb for several years and knew all the little trick to get it level, very exciting every once in a while. At my age I don't need that type of excitement, I have to save it all for a good buck. Packing in and out 3-4 pounds make a difference. From actual and advertized weight, TT is lighter and easier in everyway....

fishone · October 29, 2009, 11:55:00 AM

Bob,

On the baby lite, it says waist up to 38". I am at
the 38" waist. What about heavy hunting cloths??
I sure like the 12.5 lbs vs 14.5 on the 42". What is your thought??? Thanks! I am currently using an Ol Man Elite, suppose to weight 18 lbs, seems more, however, a great stand. I also have a LW climber.

Craig

Bob Morrison · October 29, 2009, 12:15:00 PM

Craig, The baby lite for me (34") is a little tite but dueable. I ordered the Brute lite today and at 14.5# is still lighter than any other stands I have tried over the years. it is 2" wider and 2" longer and will be more than enough room and more comfortable at 2hrs +...

GMMAT · October 29, 2009, 01:39:00 PM

If that TT is hollow tubing construction....(and it appears it is)....I'd be concerned with noise. I have the Summit, also...and the fact that the LW is MUCH quieter shouldn't be overlooked. I will NOT give up stealth for weight....and I climb a LOT (80+X in '08 and over 50X so far, this season).

Just my .02.

Bob Morrison · October 29, 2009, 02:03:00 PM

Hi Jeff, I know what your saying about the Summit. One time I climbed a tree and made so much noise that one I reached the height I wanted I came right back down and when home. I sold the summit to my neighbor and he loves it. I'm not sure why but the TT is not noisy at all, I may have used exspandable foam on it, can remember. LW is the quietest stand out there while climbing. The LW sit and climb is heavier than the TT Brute lite. I like climbing and setting in the TT better than any...

fishone · October 29, 2009, 02:05:00 PM

Bob,

Thanks for the info. I was worried the baby lite would be too tight for me. Sounds like the brute lite is the way to go for me.

Craig

Three Arrows · October 29, 2009, 07:08:00 PM

I use the Lone Wolf sit and climb with an Ol man net seat on it instead of the Lone Wolf seat. I also used the Equalizer for a couple hunts. I did not like the noise of the cable on the Equalizer but the stand was rock solid and easy to use. I also removed the front bar on the sit and climb. I now have a light stand with a dry seat that just slides out of the way when I stand. I don't think there is a stand out there that climbs and sets up as quiet as a Lone Wolf. On a tree and in place in under 3 minutes for me. I painted the platform brown, gray, black, and tan on the ribs from one end to the other and cannot find it in the tree some mornings. Leveling any treestand other than the self adjusting ones takes practice to get the proper angle. Adjustment to the platform can be made by sitting down on the seat where you can comfortably reach the cam latches and tightening the stabiliing straps. You can then unlock and adjust the belt. It is always better to not adjust while in a tree. You are probably safer to climb down and do your adjustments. We have to remember when these stands were smaller and weighed 30 plus pounds to really appreciate the 15- 17 pounders available now.

ethan · October 30, 2009, 07:55:00 PM

Three arrows, my dad does the same thing, except he says it's a "lone old wolf". He also extended the tubing out about 6"'s to accept all of the net from the Ol'man stand.

michaelschwister · October 30, 2009, 08:03:00 PM

I have had the alpha climber since 99 (I have a 99 and a 04) I hung an old seat belt off the front of the hand climber years ago and it works pretty slick as a sit and climb. I have sat all day and is not bad, not great but not bad. I really like my older one as the hand climber just sets into the top of the base and off you go.

Mike

Steve O · October 30, 2009, 08:28:00 PM

Here is a net seat for the Sit & Climb you all might be interested in:

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RLA · November 06, 2009, 10:37:00 PM

I had an early climbing tree stand about 17 years ago and hated it. I didn't feel safe in that thing at all. Well with time most things improve and tree stands have improved no doubt about it. Today was the first time I have used a climber in 17 years. I got the EQUALIZER and WOW is about all I can say, it works slick. It does have one negitive and that is it weights 20 lbs. and I know some are as light as 12 to 14 lbs. But if you don't mind the extra weight this stand might be the one for you.

stagetek · November 06, 2009, 11:57:00 PM

I mentioned a few weeks back that I was having trouble with the width of the seat, and climbing with my forearms. I just bought the sit strap,and will try it this week. If that doesn't work, I'll use my Summit hand climber and LW base.

JC · November 07, 2009, 08:07:00 AM

Or buy a Summit Viper and never hunt out of another brand climber again :rolleyes:

I use a tree saddle most of the time now but after trying something like 9 different climbers (both lone wolfs included), I found the Summit far superior. I don't know which one you climbed in Bob but the one I used last year was absolutely silent. YMMV...