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Coach
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Arrow tuning question
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October 23, 2008, 09:54:00 AM »
Was experimenting with some arrows last weekend by putting a lot of weight up front. I was shooting 190 grains upfront on a 70# spined cedar shaft. I pull 29" on a static tipped osage bow pulling 59#. The shafts were 31"long. The arrows flew fairly well bareshafted. I put on a 200 grain ace super express broadhead. The arrows were going where I looked but the recovery of the shaft in flight looked like it was in slow motion. I have noticed this before when working with tuning. What causes the shaft to look like it is recovering in slow motion in certain set ups? Thanks, Coach
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DaveBriner
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Re: Arrow tuning question
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October 23, 2008, 10:32:00 AM »
I can't explain 100%, perhaps the added weight has decreased your spine enough to cause this. You should check out the huge thread on EFOC (extreme front of center) by Ed Ashby. This might answer some of your questions about recovery of the arrow and your weight.
Best,
Dave
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Bjorn
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Re: Arrow tuning question
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October 23, 2008, 11:36:00 AM »
From your post it sounds like you went from a bareshaft arrow with a 190 grain field point to a 200 grain BH on the same bare shaft......is that right?
If so, it was the BH that caused the reaction. Try it fletched and it should improve.
If not, I think you are well overspined even with the 190 FP, and trying to 'see' your arrows in flight will cause things like dropping bow arm.
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Coach
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October 23, 2008, 11:53:00 AM »
Bjorn--I tried a bareshaft with the big broadhead and I think it was a silly thing to do. I don't think there is a major league pitcher that could put as much stuff on the ball as those arrows had! I had fletching on and the shafts just seemed to recover slow. It wasn't like I was shooting "darts". They were hitting where I looked but it seemed like getting through the paradox was a slow motion deal. Arrows were sticking straight, shaft wasn't angling one direction or the other.
Dave, read the segment on extreme FOC but it didn't really hit on what I am after. Thanks for the thought! Coach
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Coach
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October 23, 2008, 04:25:00 PM »
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pale bear
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November 19, 2008, 05:26:00 PM »
Maybe if you gave your oldest son another bow or a dozen arrows for christmas your arrows would start flying better. Just a thought.
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O.L. Adcock
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Re: Arrow tuning question
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November 19, 2008, 05:54:00 PM »
Coach, "The arrows were going where I looked but the recovery of the shaft in flight looked like it was in slow motion."
Yep, don't shoot BH's bare shaft. I assume you are using the "kick" method instead of the "planing" method? Recovery?...Recovery from what? Paradox you can not "see" without high speed photography. Arrows kicking or flying sideways is not paradox and could be tuning but is just as likely to be form or bow tiller issues. They look alike.....O.L.
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Coach
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November 20, 2008, 09:34:00 AM »
Thanks O.L. I am going to have to look up the kick or planing method. Not sure what you mean. The arrows nock end just seems to straighten slow. Very well could be tuning or form. Have had it happen before with certain arrows and was curious as well. Its not too bad as I got a nice doe with this rig last Sunday. Thanks for taking time.
Pale Bear--I'll visit with Santa Claus
Coach
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