HH bug got me ... Part One!

Originally posted by Rik:
Ben,

Craig told my friend that it is "dark bamboo." It is laminated bamboo, not the standard flat bamboo lamination like my bows are. The handle and tip overlays are beautiful, highly contrasting bacote.

Looks like what the folks here are calling "caramelized" bamboo...here is a pic of the lower limb belly of my half breed:

[Rik]

Here is a picture of the dark bamboo bow I mentioned earlier, but unfortunately the photo does not do it justice.

Prior to seeing this bow, I had thought I would not like the look of the laminated bamboo, but the laminations on this bow are so subtle and blend so well that most people would never realize it is laminated bamboo. I was impressed.

[smoke1953]

Is the laminated bamboo intended for more contrasting colors and textures vs. a strength issue?

[Rob DiStefano]

unless previous stained (which doesn't work well with bamboo), darkened 'boo/cane means it's been *significantly* heat tempered.  as seen on 'sheba', my recent craig built tembo ...

[Rik]

Rob,

Do you notice any performance differences between the laminated bamboo and the normal bamboo?

What does Craig say about how the two types of bamboo compare performance-wise?

[Rob DiStefano]

Originally posted by smoke1953:
Is the laminated bamboo intended for more contrasting colors and textures vs. a strength issue?

'lamboo' or 'actionboo' is multi strip edge grained flooring.  there is a lot of glue used as the glued strips are 1/8" to 1/4", so the limb weight is a bit more than with solid bamboo due to the glue joints.  laminated limb boo is said to add limb speed/arrow speed, as well as 'stability and strength' to the limbs.  i dunno about all that.  

i have a lamboo limbed longbow and it shoots just fine, all my other longbows have tempered solid boo/cane limbs, and they're no dogs either.  there was some bowyer talk awhile back about lamboo failures, i dunno the reason why or what became of all that.  there are lotsa laminated boo limbed bows out there, don't hear of any failures.  ymmv.

[Rob DiStefano]

Originally posted by Rik:
Rob,

Do you notice any performance differences between the laminated bamboo and the normal bamboo?

hard to tell unless two identical bows were carefully crafted, one with lamboo and the other solid boo.  as mentioned above about my bows, i don't see a startling difference 'tween the two core types, but that's don't mean much as my longbows are reasonably different.

What does Craig say about how the two types of bamboo compare performance-wise?

when he built my tembo bow blank he sandwiched solid boo over a center core of lamboo, and didn't tell me he was doing that - later he told me that was to "add speed".

[smoke1953]

I'm just a little confused, which is quite easy for me, regarding "standard flat lamination" vs. "laminated bamboo" terminology used in Rik's post.

[Rob DiStefano]

Originally posted by smoke1953:
I'm just a little confused, which is quite easy for me, regarding "standard flat lamination" vs. "laminated bamboo" terminology used in Rik's post.

a 'normal' limb lamination of any kind wood or grass (bamboo cane) is solid, one piece, rectangular - typically 36" or 72" in length and 2" wide, with varying thicknesses.  

'lamboo' and 'actionboo' are limb laminations that are themselves laminations of many smaller width/height strips that form a rectangular limb lamination to the dimensions shown above.

[smoke1953]

Thanks. Somehow I missed your post at 11:05, sorry I made you repeat yourself.

[Blueridge]

Here is my Big 5

[Blueridge]

[Wannabe1]

I realize it's not a Hill but, see the link below to my new Steve Abbott longbow. Makes a nice "D" shape when strung and shoots pretty darn good.

http://tradgang.com/noncgi/ultimatebb.php?ubb=get_topic;f=1;t=104901

[HillbillyGadget]

I don't have a pic, but I shoot a 70" Wesley Special,65#@28", CocoBolo riser and a locator grip.

[Okie man]

Finally will be getting the bow of my dreams.  Nate said my Sunset Hill is in the works now. White belly glass and clear on the back. 66" 53# at my draw give or take a few lbs.  I'll post some pics when it arrives.

[ChrisM]

I know this is a change of subject but I know there are more guys out there watching this thread like me who are trying to get a handle on a hill bow.  Now I had never done this with my recurves or RD bows before even though I knew about it.  Today I started my practice by shooting into a hay bale at 5 feet with my eyes closed for 10 arrow then 10 arrow eyes open. Shooting one arrow and pulling. Then I moved back and was driving tacks as my form was way way better.  I believe that I will start all of my practices this way for a while then go back to the cold shot scenario getting ready for season.  Just a reminder to all of those like me, do the little stuff, you have to walk before you run.

[bicster]

I also have used the blind bale as a method of practice since I started shooting trad. It helps train muscle memory so when you are then shooting at targets with your eyes open you can focus more on the spot you are trying to hit rather then so much on form.
 In other words, I either work on form with blind bale technique or I am working on aiming (concentrating on spot).

[ChrisM]

Here is my first two shot group after the blind bail warm up this morning.  It was from 16 paces.  I only shoot up to two at a time 'cause I have never been able to consintrate very well after that many and get sloppy.  All my groups after this one were in a saucer size.  Today is a good day.
http://i1198.photobucket.com/albums/aa443/ChrisMancill/20110612_50.jpg

http://i1198.photobucket.com/albums/aa443/ChrisMancill/20110612_49.jpg

[ChrisM]

Lets try this again

[Claymore]

Chris good shooting and I think I will try the blind bale first idea.