HH bug got me ... Part One!

mikebiz · February 03, 2013, 03:17:00 PM

Cool John. Glad the new one is working out for you. You got any pictures you can post? Curious to see what it looks like.

Ralphie · February 03, 2013, 04:55:00 PM

That's good. The transition seems to be smooth. Probably the "somewhat quilted" look the woven glass gave to the back is gone.
After a few months another comparison might be interesting.
You are a lucky man .... two Expeditions !

tradlongbow · February 03, 2013, 05:03:00 PM

The riser wood is cocobola with high gloss finish. I also use guitar wax on it to get that glass look.

I hope to see all of my Hill brother's at the hog hunt.

Thanks
Dsrren

JohnI · February 03, 2013, 05:04:00 PM

I have never been able to post pics on this site I sent some to Ross maybe if he gets time he can post those. The carbon looks good on the back it is gray and kind of looks like a snake skin.

Overspined · February 03, 2013, 05:59:00 PM

The carbon looks fine from what I've seen on the back of the Miller bows. I wonder though, could he use a layer of cloth or something over the carbon if someone wanted a different look? Hmm. I know folks making primitive or glass free bows use all sorts of stuff for backing.

Rossco7002 · February 03, 2013, 08:13:00 PM

I have John's pics and the carbon Expedition is a fine looking bow. When mine arrives I wouldn't be upset at all if Dave backed it with that rather than glass.

I am (lamentably) very late in posting pics of my two new additions but if I get a chance i'll throw up some of Johns bow as well.

tradlongbow · February 04, 2013, 02:37:00 PM

I just picked this up today! It's another addition to my Hill collection. Looking forward to reading it.

ChrisM · February 04, 2013, 05:57:00 PM

Look how thick those limbs are!!

tradlongbow · February 04, 2013, 07:51:00 PM

QuoteOriginally posted by ChrisM:
Look how thick those limbs are!!

Without looking it up, I'm thinking that I remember Howard's bow being 110#.

I'm really looking forward to reading the article, and seeing some pics that I've never seen before.

ChrisM · February 04, 2013, 07:56:00 PM

Yea I remember his bow being well over 100#s and his arrows were over 1000 gns.

dragonheart · February 04, 2013, 10:04:00 PM

Love to see that article. Where did you find that magazine?

MikeNova · February 05, 2013, 12:13:00 PM

Question most of us shooting hill bows cant them pretty strong. John Schulz says in Hitten em like Howard Hill when shooting from a tree stand to 'lay the bow down" I was shooting with an old timer the other day and shooting pretty well but he pointed out the way I'm shooting I'm right eye dominate but shooting with my left eye. I doubted this but when I came to full draw he had me close my left eye and sure enough couldnt even see the target with my right eye. It is true to my knowledge that most any weapon is aimed with the right eye if right eye dominant. The only way I could really aim with my right eye was to hold the bow upright with a cant no more than the 1 o'clock position. Your thoughts?

David Yukon · February 05, 2013, 01:45:00 PM

I shoot wit both eyes open...

tradlongbow · February 05, 2013, 01:50:00 PM

QuoteOriginally posted by dragonheart:
Love to see that article. Where did you find that magazine?

Jeff-

I found it on one of the auction sites.

tradlongbow · February 05, 2013, 01:54:00 PM

QuoteOriginally posted by MikeNova:
Question most of us shooting hill bows cant them pretty strong. John Schulz says in Hitten em like Howard Hill when shooting from a tree stand to 'lay the bow down" I was shooting with an old timer the other day and shooting pretty well but he pointed out the way I'm shooting I'm right eye dominate but shooting with my left eye. I doubted this but when I came to full draw he had me close my left eye and sure enough couldnt even see the target with my right eye. It is true to my knowledge that most any weapon is aimed with the right eye if right eye dominant. The only way I could really aim with my right eye was to hold the bow upright with a cant no more than the 1 o'clock position. Your thoughts?

I cant my bow, I'm right eye dominate and I shoot with both eyes open.

If I close my left eye, and aim with my right eye, I can still see the target.

When you cant the bow, is the bow blocking your right eye?

MikeNova · February 05, 2013, 03:45:00 PM

I think the old guy tricked me! I took the bow out a while ago and I am in fact seeing the target and the arrow point with my right eye. I see what he is talking about now I think. If you lean your head over to much while you cant even though both eyes are open you take your right eye out of it. other than that one time he suggested it I havent done it again.

Rossco7002 · February 05, 2013, 04:51:00 PM

Anybody think 8.3gpp arrow weight for a string follow Old Tom will be too hard on the bow? I've got this set up shooting really well and plan on bringing it to the Hog Hunt but have never gone that low before.

JohnI · February 05, 2013, 04:58:00 PM

8.3 gpp is fine for that bow Ross. Dave said around 8 is fine won't hurt a thing. The bow will tell you if you are going too light.

Knapper · February 05, 2013, 05:23:00 PM

Mike your feet and shoulders should point toward the target. Your head and right eye should point toward the target no matter how you cant the bow. The more you cant the bow the more you must bend head and body forward. Additionally, the canting must come from bending the body forward so that as you bend the bow cants and your release hand moves with the cant. If you twist your bow hand to cant then you have to twist your release hand the same amount that you twist your bow hand to get the correct release. But when you do this twist your release hand is now away from your face. So this is the reason that you bend your body then all parts move the same.

Now if you will look at all the videos and pay close attention to what Howard Hill does, you will see that he does all this (squaring up to the target bending at the waist to get different cants)but with one small subtle change. He slightly moves his head to his right. I have been told he was left eye dominate so he would naturally turn his head to the right to get his left eye more in line of the arrow.

So if you turn you head to your right it makes it difficult to use your right eye to follow the same line as your arrow.

I hope that this it clear, tough to put into words so that all understand.

These are my thoughts and observations others may disagree.

Brazos · February 05, 2013, 10:03:00 PM

MikeNova it is pretty simple to figure out which eye is your dominate eye. The fact you are questioning this tells me you aren't sure. It's a handy thing to know. Do not be offended as it is amazing the people I talk to who have no clue until I show them. I would imagine you can google up many ways to test for this and know within seconds.