HH bug got me ... Part One!

Rik · September 04, 2012, 10:57:00 AM

Ha, Ron got me good with that one!

I nearly blew coffee right out my nose laughing when I read about the lamprey. I've been teased at length about my bowquivers for as long as I can remember, but I think Ron gets the Gold Medal for that one(anybody ever notice there are some real jokesters on this site?)

Why, you'd think no one even noticed the inherent beauty of that custom, one-of-a kind, gorgeous bowquiver. She's a real beaut she is!

Ron LaClair · September 04, 2012, 11:26:00 AM

QuoteWhy, you'd think no one even noticed the inherent beauty of that custom, one-of-a kind, gorgeous bowquiver. She's a real beaut she is!

A mother eel would probably love it...

Ron LaClair · September 04, 2012, 11:29:00 AM

QuoteI've got a question for all who have knowledge of the older hill style bows. What was the typical depth of grip on the older models?

About 2 to 2 1/4"

kestimator · September 04, 2012, 11:40:00 AM

QuoteOriginally posted by Ron LaClair:

QuoteP.S. Longbowwally, I thought you might enjoy seeing a Hill-style bow fully set up in killing mode. (Nate, avert your gaze)
I saw a lamprey eel attached to the belly of a beautiful rainbow trout once. I felt sorry for the fish, it sure distracted from his beauty and must have inhibited his gracefulness in his environment... :rolleyes:

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LOL!!!!

2treks · September 04, 2012, 11:59:00 AM

The eel,i,iii,i,I mean bow quiver is fine(i guess) the pretty blue silencers are to die for though,

Good luck with the elk Rik,when does moose start?
OCT?

CTT

30coupe · September 04, 2012, 02:55:00 PM

QuoteOriginally posted by Ron LaClair:

QuoteP.S. Longbowwally, I thought you might enjoy seeing a Hill-style bow fully set up in killing mode. (Nate, avert your gaze)
I saw a lamprey eel attached to the belly of a beautiful rainbow trout once. I felt sorry for the fish, it sure distracted from his beauty and must have inhibited his gracefulness in his environment... :rolleyes:

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Quickblood · September 04, 2012, 04:46:00 PM

QuoteOriginally posted by Ron LaClair:

QuoteP.S. Longbowwally, I thought you might enjoy seeing a Hill-style bow fully set up in killing mode. (Nate, avert your gaze)
I saw a lamprey eel attached to the belly of a beautiful rainbow trout once. I felt sorry for the fish, it sure distracted from his beauty and must have inhibited his gracefulness in his environment... :rolleyes:

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Great analogy Ron! Everyone's got their own tastes, but I couldn't agree more. Good sense of humor all.

Molson · September 04, 2012, 06:30:00 PM

Ron that was great! Lol

Longbowwally · September 04, 2012, 08:25:00 PM

Rik - that is what I call a lean mean hunting machine! All I have to say is great minds think alike!

But all kidding aside, I agree, a longbow without a bowquiver is a sleek beauty, but I still like mine better with one on it :D

WESTBROOK · September 04, 2012, 09:36:00 PM

Hey Tim

Where ya been hidin??

Eric

Ron LaClair · September 04, 2012, 10:17:00 PM

Quote Ron - Hey lookee what I found - that sure is a fine looking bowquiver you have there

Wally, the little Shrew is short and compact, fast to maneuver and packs a deadly row of teeth...kinda like a Barracuda. A Classic Hill style bow with it's beautiful long and sleek lines needs room to maneuver and nothing clinging to it to incumber it's graceful arc...kinda like a Rainbow trout dancing on the water... But that's just my opinion

stik&string · September 04, 2012, 11:40:00 PM

That bottom picture is one of my all time favorites...It is what comes to mind when I think of a classic longbow.

Longbowwally · September 05, 2012, 06:34:00 AM

Well said Ron and I agree...as they say 'a picture is worth a thousand words' and that bottom picture is a classic.

Charlie Lamb · September 05, 2012, 12:49:00 PM

Just a few thoughts for your consideration and discussion.

My shooting has been a little erratic lately unless I'm really careful with my release... I mean perfect!
Anyway, I got out my spare glove (buffalo Big Shot) that I'd had the tips replaced on and it cleared up the problem instantly.
The glove had developed a crease in the tips.

So I'm wanting to try a new glove with inserts and am considering an American Leathers Crossover or Bateman Cordovan.

I love my BigShot glove, but love the looks of the Bateman (more like Howard's glove).
I've had a Howard Hill Archery glove with inserts and never could get used to it. Thoughts????

Charlie Lamb · September 05, 2012, 01:08:00 PM

Also. I've been catching up with viewing a bunch of different Howard Hill videos and noticed a couple of things.

John Shulz teaches that the thumb of the drawing hand should be held low in the palm or touching the tip of the little finger.
Howard's thumb rides pretty high and looks like he might even touch the tip of it behind his ear.

The other thing is that he seems to like to use very large fletch on his trick shooting arrows. Probably for camera visibility as well as arrow stability. Thoughts?

Ron LaClair · September 05, 2012, 02:04:00 PM

Hey Charlie ain't it great, no matter how old we get we never stop learning. With us real old guys sometimes it's re-learning stuff that we knew once but forgot.. :D

Back when I was shooting heavy bows I used a Hill glove with the inserts. The problem we had with them was the finger stalls would fly off every time you shot. Someone figured out that if you rubbed string wax inside the finger stalls the resin that they put in the wax would make the stalls stick on your fingers.

When I dropped down in bow weight I started using the Berlin glove and then went to a tab. I'm currently using the Bateman tab I'd kinda like to get back to a glove so I might try the Bateman glove.

As for that thumb thing, I tried the thumb against the little finger but it didn't work for me...fingers too short and stubby. I use to put my thumb behind my ear but I had a tendency to relax the back and let the thumb hold some of the tension so I went to just letting the thumb lie along the jawbone and that works for me...but we're all built a little different so you just gotta play around until you find what works. After 70 years shooting a bow you'd think I'd have it figured out by now...

Charlie Lamb · September 05, 2012, 02:18:00 PM

I know what you mean about the thumb thing Ron. I can touch pinky and thumb but it feels weak compared to the way I've always done it. There are just some things that aren't going to change after all these years.

My problem with the insert type glove was that it didn't feel like I had a very good hold on the string... like it could slip away before anchor or anywhere close to anchor. It was also difficult to place my fingers on the string the same each time.

I admit I may have given up on it before I developed a feel for it.

Rod Cam · September 05, 2012, 02:27:00 PM

Charlie and Ron..Try the American leathers Crossover.I think you will like it. It works for me after 56 years.

Pat B. · September 05, 2012, 02:35:00 PM

Charlie, I got a Bateman glove with the inserts and it's a nice glove but I'm unable to use it.. I tried briefly and decided against it. My problem is sizing. I have what I consider average size fingers and even talked to Earl about it. I wound up with a large glove and the finger stalls are much to small for comfort. In fact, I can't even get my fingers all the way to the bottom of each stall.. Point is, in this case, the glove sizing ran small, IMO. I'm sure I'd need an extra-large.. If you'd like to try the one I have PM me your address and I'll send it your way immediatly..

Ron LaClair · September 05, 2012, 02:42:00 PM

I don't know about the Bateman glove sizing but you just rang a bell on my memory..

I use to soak the Hill glove in water to soften it so it would stretch and form to the fingers. Then put it on and shoot it dry. After that it was custom fitted to my fingers...