HH bug got me ... Part One!

David Mitchell · August 11, 2011, 10:59:00 AM

Dang, she did it again today....it's just hard to miss with that Shrewhill.

Ron LaClair · August 11, 2011, 11:08:00 AM

QuoteDang, she did it again today....it's just hard to miss with that Shrewhill.

What?.. :confused: ..

dragonheart · August 11, 2011, 11:29:00 AM

Did David break some nocks? A robinhood maybe?

dragonheart · August 11, 2011, 11:33:00 AM

RLA,

You can buy some of the woddie weight's and add to the arrow to reduce spine.

It does increase your FOC and overall arrow weight, which may or may not be favorable depending on your setup.

August 11, 2011, 12:27:00 PM

Don't forget about how much fun it is to shoot net arrow lengths with cedar shafts. John had that one right. Especially with my Hill yew bow, both it and I respond better to having the net length blunt and target arrows, they just seem to fly straighter and stack tighter. Of course they are lighter spined and lighter weight than my broadheads, but it does not seem to make that much of a deal for me when I mix them up with broadheads. Perhaps that is something that Hill longbows do well, shoot the same with varied arrow weights. It was explained to me once that it was the length, but I think it may have more to do with the ratio of limb weight to arrow weight, a heavier limb either in a dynamic measurement or staic is less affected by slight changes in arrow weight.

David Mitchell · August 11, 2011, 12:47:00 PM

posted August 11, 2011 11:08 AM
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Dang, she did it again today....it's just hard to miss with that Shrewhill.
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What?.. ..

That tight group thing like in the picture you posted. :D

David Mitchell · August 11, 2011, 12:49:00 PM

What she did was shoot more of those tight groups, Ron....like the picture I sent you. :D Gettin' hard on the nock supply!

dragonheart · August 11, 2011, 01:17:00 PM

QuoteOriginally posted by David Mitchell:
What she did was shoot more of those tight groups, Ron....like the picture I sent you. :D Gettin' hard on the nock supply!

Ron LaClair · August 11, 2011, 01:26:00 PM

QuoteWhat she did was shoot more of those tight groups, Ron....like the picture I sent you. :D Gettin' hard on the nock supply!

Maybe you'd best step back to a fit distance for men to shoot...

Nate Steen . · August 11, 2011, 02:55:00 PM

Pavan, truely said sir....

I prefer net arrow lengths as well...drawing the head up onto the arrow shelf alittle. A short arrow has always been easier to tune for me than a longer arrow. My broadheads arrows are only 1/2" longer than the blunts, and spine isn't an issue with slight variances in tip weight.

It's one of my pet peeves to see 2" - 4" of arrow hanging out in front of the bow. I know it's the norm with carbons, but to me it still looks rank amateurish. I have yet to see an olympic archer with arrows sticking out in front of the bow, and those guys are after extreme accuracy and tuning....

WESTBROOK · August 11, 2011, 04:48:00 PM

RC, String follow will make sweeter shooting bow. About the closest to zero handshock as you will get out of a Hill style bow. More forgiving too, they say and I would agree. At a loss of a couple FPS, not percievable. The best Hill bow design out there IMO.

Eric

ErikT · August 11, 2011, 05:11:00 PM

Who knows what "page" the hand positioning pics are on in this thread where rob drew dots on his hand to demonstrate?

August 11, 2011, 05:32:00 PM

When I make up a set of tapered cedars, I take 6 the lower spine, they are spined within 5 pounds, for field points and blunts and the higher half for broadheads.

MikeNova · August 11, 2011, 05:38:00 PM

Yeah Nate when you told me you really doubted I pulled close to 30" I thought you were wrong on that one. Till I got someone to watch and I was pulling it back 27 1/2 tops! Live and learn.

mikebiz · August 11, 2011, 05:58:00 PM

QuoteOriginally posted by ErikT:
Who knows what "page" the hand positioning pics are on in this thread where rob drew dots on his hand to demonstrate?

page 206 about half way down.

http://tradgang.com/noncgi/ultimatebb.php?ubb=get_topic;f=1;t=098600;p=206

Benny Nganabbarru · August 12, 2011, 05:49:00 AM

Another class at school are studying medieval English history this term, and they read somewhere (whether true or not, I don't know) that Henry VIII could consistantly hit the bull's eye at 220m. Well, they wanted to see if Mr. Kleinig could do the same. So, I brought my little, weedy 60# yew HH Redman in (not a warbow by any stretch, but looks similar to kids). Even though our oval is fairly big, shooting diagonally we could only make a 155m range. They set-up a wheely bin with a little round tin bin on top to resemble a French knight. I had three Douglas fir blunts, about 620 grains each. I put her at 45 degrees, and hauled back to anchor, and let fly. The arrows fell about thirty metres short. I know that when I shoot "flight", my draw length shortens drastically, and so it occured to me that the English archers had good reason to draw back past their ears. So, once the kids had retrieved the arrows, I tried hauling right back past my ear. The first two arrows were a few metres off the target, but the third hit the wheely bin and bounced into the air, taking a gouge out of the plastic. The kids were quite impressed; I, however, was dumbfounded. It was good fun. From memory, with my quick Black Widows, I could get 200m with normal hunting arrows. The string follow bow is about 45m shorter than that, but still has enough punch up-close, I'm sure.

Mudd · August 12, 2011, 08:15:00 AM

Ben it sounds like you and the class had fun learning something about history.

I love shooting at targets that are 150 to 200 yards away.

The most I can get in my yard at the moment is a little over 70 yds but hopefully that will change in the near future.

Thanks for sharing with us Ben.

God bless,Mudd

Rob DiStefano · August 12, 2011, 08:19:00 AM

QuoteOriginally posted by ErikT:
Who knows what "page" the hand positioning pics are on in this thread where rob drew dots on his hand to demonstrate?

don't forget there is a searchable copy of this entire topic - find the link by going to the first post in this thread.

ErikT · August 12, 2011, 08:31:00 AM

Can't get consistent with my NM Whisper at all. I've pulled a few decent groups but mostly 'm spraying arrows. It's also hurting/straining my fingers shooting 3 under for some reason. Out of frustration I picked up my old Bighorn recurve last night and installed 44# limbs and started drilling the target.

Rob DiStefano · August 12, 2011, 08:37:00 AM

QuoteOriginally posted by ErikT:
Can't get consistent with my NM Whisper at all. I've pulled a few decent groups but mostly 'm spraying arrows. It's also hurting/straining my fingers shooting 3 under for some reason. Out of frustration I picked up my old Bighorn recurve last night and installed 44# limbs and started drilling the target.

MANY factors involved. those 2 bows are different as night 'n' day. is the nm too short for yer draw length and/or too heavy of pull? do you have the right arras for it and its shelf cut? how's the grip on both? lots to consider ....