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HH bug got me ... Part One!

Started by longbowben, January 07, 2011, 01:08:00 PM

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RLA

Also, nice pictures all! Keepem comin

Ben Maher

Nate and Ray ... looks like a fine way to wpend an afternoon lads ! and maybe break a few arrows with all them rocks around eh ...

RLA ... your setup sounds sweet and pretty close to mine . A bow made to hunt for sure !
" All that is gold does not glitter , not all those who wander are lost "
J.R.R TOLKIEN

Rod Cam

Nate, great pictures, I like the way you dress for hunting, that is the way it was when I started hunting, everybody dressed that way.  Just long bow, back quiver, wood arrows, jeans and wool shirt, the only way to go,

Aussie Stickbow Hunter

Glad you liked the story and photos fellas.

Stan & Mike, I cant my bow a lot; always have and it just feels natural to me.

Beautiful country Nate & Ray but it looks like it would hurt my old knees.    :biglaugh:  I always like looking at the places other people get to hunt. Thanks.

Jeff

Okie man

In my quest to become more consistent with the Hill style bow I check in at the Shooters Forum pretty regularly. Moebow has a thread there titled "Rotational Drawing technique". It really helps to get the back heavily involved in the shot and I found that this method of drawing automatically caused me to heel the grip. I have read every post on this thread and picked up several pointers and one of the most valuable was to tighten up my grip with the ring and pinky fingers of the bow hand. I believe Rik offered that pearl of wisdom. This has been a great thread with lot's of folks sharing helpful info. In the wise words of Roy Williams, "Way! Just Sayin"
When the moment of truth arrives, the time for preparation has passed

Jesse_83

Shootin my 66" HH Cheetah 65@27"
Not many supply stores in BC but I found some TS plus and made my own string (12 strand padded to 20) and found the hexshaft manufacturer 45 mins from my house and made my own arrows (minwax rub on poly, felt pen crest, young feather burner).  Things seem to be working...


Okie man

Help me out Jesse. I don't know what I'm looking at there.
When the moment of truth arrives, the time for preparation has passed

Mudd

Jesse 83  "Sweet Caroline" is certainly living up to her name.

Good shooting!

God bless,Mudd
Trying to make a difference
Psalm 37:4
Roy L "Mudd" Williams
TGMM- Family Of The Bow
Archery isn't something I do, it's who I am!
The road to "Sherwood" makes for an awesome journey.

MT Longbow

QuoteOriginally posted by StanM:
Canting the bow

I notice that when I really, really want to hit the spot it seems that I shoot significantly better when I cant the bow nearer to 45 degrees.  Anyone else find this?  I came to realize this last night when I was shooting from a number of different positions and seemed to consistently drill center when kneeling.  I noticed the main difference is that I cant the bow more when kneeling.  Started canting it at the same angle when I was standing and noticed a definite improvement in shooting consistency.  Anyone else experience this?
If your left eye dominant, it really helps to position the head  and left eye  more directly over the arrow, for reduced angle off, it helps me .
Craig Ekins;
70" -60LB "Robin Hood",string follow  #47 of 50. LE
68" -70Lb Redman, string follow all YEW. "Yewlogy"
68" -75Lb@28. 3 lam Boo. String Follow- "LegendStick"

Ron Maulding : 68" Big Horn , Boo and Osage. 78#@27.

David Miller: Old Tom

Okie man

When the moment of truth arrives, the time for preparation has passed

Steve Clandinin

Great shooting Jesse.Jesse where abouts in BC.I was born and raised in Burnaby.Lived 3 years in Abbotsford before moving to Sask.I've lots of Family and friends back there.I've got the same bow as you,exept with Yew cores ,love it!
Quote from Howard Hill.( Whenever he taught someone to shoot) "Son make up your mind right now if you want to target shoot or hunt as theres a world of differance between the two"

Jesse_83

Im in the Okanagan but born and raised in the Kootenays.

StanM

MT Longbow, could be a lot to your statement.  I still shoot a slingshot lefthanded.  Switched from shooting a bow left handed when I was 12 years old and my parents bought me my first "real" bow that was right handed.  Before that it was lefty on one of those dual shelf fiberglass kids bows.

Aussie Stickbow Hunter


Ray_G

Jesse, nice shooting and that is a fine looking bow!

When Nate and I were at the spring fed water trough, I told him about my time in BC working for an outfitter in 1972.  We were South of Muncho Lake, off the highway at Mile 442.  Exciting country for a kid with wanderlust.  Come to think of it, I am an older kid with wanderlust, now.
Sunset Hill 64" 54# @ 26"  "Destiny"

B.H.A.

tradlongbow

Jesse 83-

Good shooting,

Thanks for sharing,
Darren
Darren

tradlongbow@yahoo.com

"Archery may not be the sport of all Kings, but Archery is the King of Sports"
Howard Hill

SunSet Hill, stringfollow, 66" 53@27.5",

Steve Clandinin

Jesse,years ago spent alot of time chasing Elk north of Kimberley.Skookemchuck,Canal Flats Johnsone lake,Lost Dog Creek and way up the White Swan,great country!
Quote from Howard Hill.( Whenever he taught someone to shoot) "Son make up your mind right now if you want to target shoot or hunt as theres a world of differance between the two"

rmorris

Hello everyone,
I have been a member of Tradgang for over a year now and spend the majority of my time in "The Bowyer's Bench". A few weeks ago I ventured out of my quiet domain and stumbled upon the "Pow Wow" section and took a look, where I soon discovered a posting "HH Bug got me" with over 4000 replies, so I started reading...
After about a week I think I was about a little over 150 pages in and I was hooked. I have built many reflex deflex longbows over the last few years and I was thinking I just may have to build myself a Howard Hill style longbow. Monday morning between classes I went down to the local archery shop because I wanted to test drive a HH style bow. The only bow they had in this style was a 68" – 50# which is just about perfect for me. The bow did not give any indication to who made it but it had 4 Purple Heart laminations in the limbs and 2 of the laminations looked like they tapered towards the tips (I would have to guess about a .004/ in taper) and the riser looked to be about 15 inches. The brace height for the bow was also about 7.5 "from the grip. So the archery tech on duty handed me the bow and I asked him for an arrow so I could give it a try. For starters the arrow was properly spined but about 200 grains underweight for my preference ( it was a GT 35/55 with about a 100 grain tip) I think that is about 360 grains total.
I pulled the bow back and was very impressed by how smooth the pull of the bow was I set my anchor and released. To my surprise the bow nearly jumped out of my hand and the shock of the bow had me reaching for 2 aspirin and a glass of water. I was not sure what to think so I went and pulled the arrow and took a second shot. The only difference this time was the bow string now slapped me on the wrist just behind my thumb. To my surprise I was not impressed by this bow in the slightest.
Is what I just described typical of the HH style bows or did I get my hands on a subpar flatbow?  Please let me know what you all think and what would improve my experience the next time I try this style of bow. I asked the local shop if they ever get in any bows in from Howard Hill Archery and said no and there was a reason they do not stock these types of bows. I never expected a bow this flat to shoot the same as a reflex deflex but I did expect a little more then what I shot. Thanks again for your input and look forward to hearing what you have to say about this.

Ralph Morris
"Havin' such a good time Oo-de-lally, Oo-de-lally Golly, what a day"

tradlongbow

Ralph-

It sounds like you may have shot a bow with a very bad design. Were you healing the bow and holding it with a slightly bent arm? Holding a Hill bow the proper way could make a difference, also that arrow was too light for that bow.

If your gone to build a Hill style bow, we would love to see it.
Darren

tradlongbow@yahoo.com

"Archery may not be the sport of all Kings, but Archery is the King of Sports"
Howard Hill

SunSet Hill, stringfollow, 66" 53@27.5",

dragonheart

R. Morris,

This "Hill" stuff is more than just picking up a longbow and shooting it.  Some will disagree, I believe that Hill style is a method/discipline/form of the art of archery.  

It is much more than the design of the bow and the arrow.  There is a way you shoot these longbows.  The bow also performs at its best when it fits your hand and draw.  This method is a specific way.  Like I said others will disagree, but there are basic fundamentals that most good "Hill style" archers stick to.  

These bows shine shooting hunting weight arrows.  The design does not shoot great with a super light point and light carbon arrows.  Recurves shoot those a lot better.  9-15 grains per pound.  These bows are not for everyone.  It does take some analysis of your form to get the technique down.  

In archery you have different styles, just like in martial arts. This is a particular method and style, not just a straight thick limbed longbow.
Longbows & Short Shots


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