HH bug got me ... Part One!

[Looper]

Originally posted by Muss03:
Thanks Looper, I really like that Cheetah BTW. My draw is 28" I have always shot Magnus 125 gr 2 blade broadheads out of my recurves. I would be open to trying whatever works best with the bow, be it aluminum, wood, heavy or light broadheads. I believe the bow is just a standard Half Breed longbow with the stock string and a locator grip. Thanks again for the help

You should be able to use some 45-50 or 50-55 spine wood shafts with your Halfbreed.  If you wanted to go with carbons, the Arrow Dynamics shafts are fantastic.  I've had no problem at all getting them to fly perfectly out of my Hills.

Whatever you choose, it would be well worth your time to get a test kit of shafts. That way you'll know for certain what works for you.

[Pat B.]

Hey Swamp ----

  I shot the A&H bows for several years (before I became a Hill convert, lol) and still have a couple of sets of limbs and a riser.  One of these days I need to move them out to make room for another Hill style bow !!!  But the concave portion of the limbs that I have is on the belly side..
                      Good shooting

[Bud B.]

Originally posted by Muss03:
Sense this is a HH thread I will post this here rather than start a new thread. I have been attempting to tune my new to me Half Breed. It is 70" long and 51 @ 28. I have the brace height at 6.5 inches. I am having fits trying to tune Gold tip 500 spine carbons to this bow, which should be about right for the bow from what I understand. The only thing I have in aluminum is 2117 which is way to stiff, even with 200 grains up front. I suppose I will be purchasing some new arrows. Does anyone have a similar setup and if so, what do you use? Thanks fellas

I have a Dave Johnson backset 66" 49@28 that shoots full legth GT trad 35/55s well with 145gr up front, standard insert, and 1" (12gr) 2117 footing. I had irratic flight occasionally, which I attributed to the nock fit to string. I heated the Bohning signature nocks and opened up the nocks to fit more loosely on the string. Groups tightened up nicely.


It also shoots 30.5" bop 2016 Legacys well with standard inserts and 200gr up front. I use older Mercury nocks on the 2016s.

Originally posted by swampthing:
Mactawa, Howard's design calls for concave/convex limbs. A/H website shows concave on the back in their CAD pic like a tape measure, but apparently the concave is on the belly side, as mention by someone else, and if it is, it is just like Howard's patented design from the late 30's. After all, the bows are called, a "Hill Bow."

Swamp,LOL!
 

[Ron LaClair]

This one is going to be delivered to it's new owner tomorrow at the GLLI. Shrew Hill, 66" 44#@ 27" bamboo core, yew limb veneers, curly myrtlewood riser. I shot it today, it's sweet...and whisper quiet.

     

   

   

   

 

[David Mitchell]

Oooooh, I sure like the looks of that one!

[swampthing]

Macatowa, No prob here, just trying to clarify. Times its hard to understand some of your points of view over text.
Nice bow Ron, is that a power lam under the riser??

[Ron LaClair]

Nice bow Ron, is that a power lam under the riser??  

Good eye Jesse..     :cool:

[Overspined]

Originally posted by Ron LaClair:
 

Nice bow Ron, is that a power lam under the riser??  

Good eye Jesse..      :cool:  [/b]

Power lam??  Ok Ron, please explain!  

[kestimator]

Originally posted by Ron LaClair:
This one is going to be delivered to it's new owner tomorrow at the GLLI. Shrew Hill, 66" 44#@ 27" bamboo core, yew limb veneers, curly myrtlewood riser. I shot it today, it's sweet...and whisper quiet.

     

     

   

     

   

OMGosh!!!!
That's one sweet looking bow!!!! Totally in my specs!!!  As Napoleon Dynamite would say "Luckeeeeeee"!!  

[Ben Maher]

As Napoleon Dynamite would say "Luckeeeeeee"!!    [/QB][/QUOTE]


"bowhunting skills , nun chuck skills " .......

[Ron Roehrick]

Ron thats a great looking Hill style longbow great classic lines and shape,if they perform as good as they look you have a winner. Ron.

[Brianlocal3]

Nice looking bows, yall.
I have decided to trade my Belcher Union Jack away. the grip is a touch too deep for my little girly hands (no offence I hope Killdeer) The standard Northern Mist grip fits me better. The Union Jack measured about 2 1/16 deep the NM was 1 7/8 roughly. So its up in the classifieds if anyone here has another Hill style bow that they would like to trade for it. I need something to fit my hands.

[Owlmagnet]

Brian, I have small hands as well, but I kind of went the other way with Hill grips. I've been experimenting with making them thinner and deeper in an attempt to find a repeatable straight grip. I've had the best luck so far with a thin, deep wedge that rides my lifeline, while the center pads of my fingers press the back of the bow into my hand. (It's that "suitcase" grip that Mr Hill talked about.)

I have been gluing strips of leather to the back of my straight grips to build up depth, and then sanding them down to that narrow wedge. My current Wesley Specials have been modified to a 1" X 2-3/16" wedge and a 1" X 2-1/4" wedge. I am awaiting the arrival of a Tembo which has been ordered with a 1" X 2-3/8" wedge grip.

I will be happy to post my impressions of this experiment after a rigorous field test and evaluation.

By the way, if you are a shepherd, small, strong hands are a tangible asset when it is time to pull lambs! They also apply more energy to a specific target, (due to their reduced surface area), with each punch. They are also of great benefit when circumstances require the use of a Gov't issued Colt M-1911-A1, .45 ACP, with an, as issued, short trigger. Experience, in all of the above, has taught me not to fret too much about having small hands; they aren't necessarily "girlish"!!!

Good luck,
Bob

[Brianlocal3]

The hands do help with my SA 1911. My glock 21 I had to make some adjustments on. I'm sure I could learn it, but no matter what I have tried I cannot love the big grip like the ones you explained. I have been spoiled by the narrow , not so deep NM grip.

[Hawken1911]

I had the pleasure of seeing Ron and the Shrew Hill he posted pictures of at the GLLI today.  The pictures don't do it jusice.  It is a stunning bow!

[Ron LaClair]

The Shrew Hill got delivered today at the GLLI, Louie Lucido was the recipient. I shot around the coarse this afternoon with Louie. His bow that I named "Red Eagle" has very slim limbs but it's a stable bow, very quick and Louie shot it very well.

 

 

[Ron LaClair]

I shot my David Miller "Tonkin" bow and I was pleased with how well it shot.

   

VERY pleased.

 

[Looper]

I'm really liking my Shrew Hill. It shoots a 60-65 sure wood with a 160 grain point very nicely.  Those arrows weigh around 650 grains.

[Ric O'Shay]

My Dave Johnson red cedar longbow is about ready for the finishing touches. Dave set me a couple of pics before the finish goes on.



Myrtle riser, red cedar limbs with the classic looking black glass back and white glass on the belly. A red pigskin leather grip will be added after the spraying. It is built in Oklahoma and named "Tahlequah" in honor of the Oklahoma capital of the Cherokee Nation and the birthplace of my beautiful bride of 32 years.