Stain bleeding through white paint cap

[wolfhunter4life]

I am trying my hand at making my first dozen POC arrows. I stained the with Minwax water based emerald green stain. I waited a day and then taped off the shaft and sprayed on an 8" white cap. I used Rustoleum enamel. I waited 24 hours and used wipe on Minwax poly gloss. AND almost instantly I seen green coming through the cap??? Did I do something wrong? Should I poly a couple coats before I paint the cap, or just stain to a certain spot and then paint???

[lpcjon2]

I would steel wool the stain after it dried,and use Binz primer sealer(can use a brush) then when dry use the rustoleum. Sounds like the spray paint is not adhering to the stain. The binz should remedy the problem.

[Grey Taylor]

The best way I've found to keep that from happening is not to stain where the white will be.
I know that's not much help to you now...

Guy

[LA Trapper]

You may have to use Kilz house paint to keep it from bleeding through. It is a primer so it is not that thick but it does work.  Kilz is white and you can find it at any lumber, Home Depot, WalMart.

Billy

[Mike Vines]

Originally posted by Grey Taylor:
The best way I've found to keep that from happening is not to stain where the white will be.
I know that's not much help to you now...

Guy

BINGO.  Also, before painting, apply a base coat of primer.  Just did 2 sets.  One brown and one yellow.  I taped off and primed/painted (24 hrs between steps) then I stained up to the paint line.

Like said before, not much help now, but something to think of next time.

[Hot Hap]

I'm with Grey!
Hap

[wolfhunter4life]

Gotcha! SO my best option is to tape off....stain the shaft except where I want to paint the white cap. Is there any way I can fix the green bleeding though now? Probably too late...learning as I go. Good 3-d arrows lol. Thanks for the info fellas.

[wooddamon1]

Maybe try more coats of white or do the binz thing, I'd try stripping off the paint and re-doing the caps after priming...

[Mike Vines]

In my opinion, just shoot what you have and make the appropriate corrections on the next set you make.  One bit of advice I will gladly pass on to you is only make 1/2 dozen at a time.  You will get bored with the dozen you have and want to create new ones.  

I don't find it a requirement to tape off the shaft before staining.  Just use a small applicator (I use shotgun cleaning patches) and work slowly up to your desired starting point.  There is no need to rush things.  

Take your time and do things right and you will forever be happy with the results.

[Orion]

It's possible you didn't get enough paint on the crown and the green wasn't noticeable until you put the gloss over the paint.  Also possible that your poly coat is dissolving the crown dip. Another coat of crown dip may cover it all.  Why are you putting poly on over the crown paint?  No need to.

[wolfhunter4life]

I put the poly gloss wipe on over the paint because.....err I'm a novice lol. Learning as I go.

[jhg]

It is the shellac in the binz/kilz that blocks stain throughs. Shellac also sticks to anything and anything sticks to shellac.

Whether or not you choose to use it or not, its good to know that shellac is one of the oldest, most trusted intermediary layers in all sorts of finishes from way, way back.

Joshua