Bowyer Mistake

[Turkeys Fear Me]

Originally posted by Sixby:
I think this entire conversation is a bit on the rediculous side if the only thing wrong is that the top and bottom limb were mis numbered.

Originally posted by Bowbldr:
It is not my bow, but I know the feelings of the bowyer.And I can guarantee that I would not replace a bow just because the writting was reversed.

Originally posted by Riverbend:
I called the Bowyer on it, and he said that if I send it back to him he will just sand the back and belly of the top limb to bring it in to tiller.

It's quite an assumption to say that this issue is simply a matter of mismarked limbs.  The bowyer himself said it would need to be reworked.  Let's not make the customer the bad guy here.

I have done some air head math on sanding 50 thou glass.  If the limb lengths are correct that is, the gravitational center is in the correct place, 1&1/4" from center or whatever this particular bow is, to get the 3/8" relative shift of the top to bottom limb would not take that much sanding.  If it is anything but a short hybrid, it would probably turn out fine.

[Bob Morrison]

It is possible the limbs can not be switched, some make there top and bottom limb pins setups different so you can't reverse them. If this is the case that means the tiller will need to change 1/2" to get the 1/4" less on the bottom. That is more sanding than I would feel comfortable about doing.I would make new limbs. Retiller the other to 3 under and resell them as instock, Still a good limb. Some of the best shooting limbs of my own personal stuff have been sanded to the point I would not sell them, I never have a problem with them breaking or anything else. Some have been real shooters.

[artifaker1]

Hey Bob, I wished I could order another 18 inch riser from you, you look like you have too much time on your hands, LOL. I need more work to do that though. Economy bad.
Sometimes I blab too much, acting like I know something about bows. Forgive me.

[Bob Morrison]

Larry we do take paypal    I'm just waiting on the evening hunt, it may be too hot (around 80) but I need to get into the woods and out of the house,,,,,,and computer.
 I have learned from this thread that we don't build custom bows, our bows start less $800 1pc $950 3 pcs. Just under that magic $1000  

[ken denton]

My congratulations to all the tradional bowers out there. You build bows for the love of Tradional Archery and not for the money because you are skilled craftsmen who could make much more money doing something else. Your bows are worth more than a $ 1000 dollars but you keep the cost down for us common guys.
Tradional bowers are my heros. Thanks, guys!!! Ken Denton

[YORNOC]

Yeah, you make some very inexpensive non custom bows don't you Bob?  

[Riverbend]

Ok, thanks again for all the comments. Let me just share a couple of things. The limbs are not made to reverse, the top one has the cutout for the sight window and the bottom is rounded. Also the alignment pins are spaced different from top to bottom. I know that the price I payed was high, but I really like the design this bowyer has, and also I added some custom features, such as horn and carbon, along with exotic woods. I really just believe the bowyer was in a hurry to finsh the bow, so he could go hunting. There was a couple of other small minor things such as finger prints in the finish and some sanding marks on the handle. I can live with the minor stuff, I just want the bow limb to turn out. I guess if they dont, I will have to spend more money and have another set made. Lessons learned.

[YORNOC]

This is just a shame. You shouldn't spend ANY more money. I really hope this guy comes through for you, good luck and let us know! Sounds like one heck of a nice bow otherwise.

[LongStick64]

For a 1000 bucks you should not live with it period,finger prints, sanding marks and limb issues. Craftsmanship is part of the price of the bow not just the materials and the name of bowyer on it.

[joe vt]

Just a comment about QC checking before product is shipped. In the real world no matter how much you QC something at somepoint it will leave with a problem. Its called being human.


I hope your issure is resolved. And if the bowyer had caught the issue before shipping and fixed it you would never have known.


The biggest problem you will face now is the mentality aspect of it...........

[Al Dean]

Finger prints, sanding marks, miss tillered, over $1000 and you still have this kind of composure.  I am indeed impressed.  You sound like a super person.  Don't let what your bowyer does or doesn't do change you.  You have to live with yourself.

[kat]

The bowyer said he would make it right.  Give him a chance to do just that.
I am the first owner of the house I live in.  I paid a bit more than $1000 for it.  There were some problems with it when I moved in, and the builder made them right.  I never considered asking for a new house.

[YORNOC]

Are you kidding???????????????????

[kat]

Nope.  Are you?

[YORNOC]

kat, you may have taken me the wrong way... I meant about the price of your house!
1000 dollars for a house is quite the deal, even if its a tent!  Nice!

[Sixby]

Well now you got me. Fingerprints and sanding marks are not good at all. Sorry but I draw the line on a bow having anything less than a perfect finish. That is a sign of conscienciousness in building and craft. Pride in workmanship. It tells the tude of the builder toward the entire process. At least that is how I feel about it.

With a cutout for the sight window like I have on my bows and like you are talking about if retillering takes off more than a couple of lbs and gets out side of what is acceptable to you then I would be building you another bow or a new set of limbs. God Bless you and hope this works out. Steve