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Whats the deal with me shooting broadheads??

Started by frassettor, June 19, 2009, 07:15:00 PM

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frassettor

Whenever I put on my broadheads to shoot (Zwicky deltas, Zephyrs Sasquatches) my groups go to He#% a little bit. I tried mounting them vertical, horizontal and even at 11 and 5 oclock ( due to the way I cant my bow, Im a right handed shooter). Some how I always "see" the head and it intefers with my concentration...Anyone else have this problem?
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Brian Krebs

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frassettor

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ChuckC

start shooting ONLY those broadheads and get used to them

Mike Bolin

frassetor-I am no expert by any means, but here is what I had to do to cure the same problem. I started out shooting very close.....10-15 feet, one arrow at a time, then pull. If I couldn't hit my "spot", the exact spot at that range with a broadhead, but I could with a field point, I figured I had a definite tuning issue. Once I determined that I had true arrow flight at the close yardage, I move back gradually, again shoot one arrow, then pull. All the while I am doing my best to ignore the arrow/head and concentrating only on the spot I want to hit. On my bow/arrow set up I have come up with 2 seperate combinations that fly well for me-1. Easton 500 carbon with a 50 gr. brass insert and a 200 grain head (507 gr. total off of 48# limbs) and 2. Easton 400 carbon with a 100 gr. brass insert and a 200 grain head (577 gr. total off of 53# limbs). Like you, I had a hard time with seeing the broadhead and breaking my concentration on my "spot". By starting off very close (where I can't miss) I gained confidence in my broadhead flight and then graually moved back to hunting distances. Hope this helps you some and good luck! Let us know how it goes for you! Mike
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Trooper

I do what ChuckC said.  About 3 months before the season I shoot a "practice" broadhead of the kind I will hunt with.  I shoot one arrow with a broadhead.
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James Wrenn

Well if the groups are spreading because of your focus on the heads you will just have to shoot them untill you overcome the problem.If they are spreading because they are not flying as well as your feild points you need to check your tuneing.

btw..The Sasquatch is the only broadhead I have ever had trouble tuneing for good flight.It just would not shoot for me without going to big feathers although I can shoot about any other head with 3" or 4" feathers just fine.
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George D. Stout

I believe he is saying it's a problem with vision; seeing the broadhead in his sight.  I suspect you will need to get used to it.  Try angling it as best you can to minimize sight picture.  Are you shooting arrows that are a good bit longer than your draw length?  That could be an issue too as far as periphery goes.

Kingwouldbe

Hi frassettor, I like to tune my bow to my broadheads, NOT my field points, most tune to field point and wounder why there broadheads don't fly.

I mount my broadheads horizontal, Why, you might ask, well, as the arrow is going through the paradox, but still on the string, the arrow is bending to the right then to the left, well, what is the broadhead doing? it's waging from left to right, if it's horizontal it has less wind hitting it and less chase of it taking over, however if you have a well tuned bow arrow set up it's not as critical.

As the arrow clears the bow and before the fletching has a chance to correct anything, the broadhead is steering your arrow, if the arrow is to weak the broadhead will fight the fletching for control, usually in a type of roll, and same for to stiff.

Try tuning your arrow for broadheads first and your field points are easy.

If it is only your concentration, you might want to get some frozen orange juice........... the concentrated kind    :goldtooth:  

I'm not saying this is the only way, just what I do.

Bill Carlsen

Very often when archer's are shooting borderline spined arrows their practice heads shoot pretty good. The real test is to see what happens when you put on your preferred broadhead....that will often tell you something about your set up. If the real problem is being distracted by the broadhead entering your sight picture then practicing with the bhs will be the cure. If not, my guess is you are shooting arrows that are boderline in regards to correct spine. When I tune my arrows the first thing I do is to put on a couple of my favorite bhs and take them out to shoot to make sure that all is well. Tuning to the broadhead is the real key, which has been mentioned already.

By the way, tell us more about your set up....bow weight, arrow specs, etc.
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frassettor

The bow weights I am using are 58, and 61# Black Widow Longbows . I draw 28", and my arrows are Arrow Dynamics Trads that are cut to 31.5" BOP. with 260 gr field points...
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George D. Stout

Those arrows are hanging out there in you line of vision and that's freakin' you out 8^).  Shorten them up and add weight to the front.  Or, go to a softer spine so you can get them to about 29".

Kingwouldbe

I think George hit the ten spot  :scared:   out front that would get in any ones view.

Cut and re-tune my friend

wihill

I think the problem's located somewhere between the ears...     ;)    :smileystooges:    

If they bug you that much, just re-index the feathers/nock so broadhead's flat.
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