Insert Removal Question

Shakes.602 · October 15, 2007, 12:32:00 PM

I bought some Used 2219 Legacy Arrows, and whoever Built them put the Nocks in the "Footed Graphic" End!

I know they are Usually Inserted and Glued with Ferru-Lite Glue with Heat. So far, The Heat is beginning to Cook the Graphic!!

tim-flood · October 15, 2007, 04:05:00 PM

I can't think of any glue that heat won't break down. are you using an ele stove or element for your heat or a flame?

LAR43 · October 15, 2007, 11:44:00 PM

Heat the threads on a field point. Then thread it into the insert. While it's there put some heat on the point too. Let it set for a couple seconds, then twist the whole thing out. . .the same direction you threaded it in, not loosening.
Cool the whole thing off & separate when it's cold.

Larry

strick9 · October 17, 2007, 09:16:00 AM

You may be out of luck, I have cooked a lot of carbons trying to get epoxy to give, If you have room to cut do so or you will wind up like me, with a bunch of mushroomed and weak carbons laying around..

insttech1 · October 17, 2007, 12:33:00 PM

Yup there are some epoxies that will not break down with heat below the melting point of carbon...

You may have to cut 'em out...or sell/trade them...better than ruining all of 'em.

Try rhino melt next time...It's a "new" hotmelt designed for carbons, and it's the cat's butt!!

Take Care,
Marc

hunt it · October 17, 2007, 12:52:00 PM

Get yourself a rifle cleaning rod. I have not seen an insert to date that won't tap out with the rod. I have soaked carbons in boiling water for a few seconds first to soften glue. Good luck.

PhilFloyd · October 17, 2007, 01:19:00 PM

He is trying to remove the inserts from aluminum shafts - not carbon.

Doc Nock · October 17, 2007, 03:32:00 PM

5-min epoxy in those double syringes seems to let go easily with heat. I had some other epoxy in two bottles bought at the local archery store and nothing...Nothing will get them to let go! :eek:

While nobody talks about it much, I'd think you can take the tensil out of alum w/ too much heat too! Dontchathink?

Shakes.602 · October 17, 2007, 06:05:00 PM

"LAR43" I will try that on the Threaded Inserts! THANK YOU!!

:eek:
The Idea of a "Gun Cleaning Kit" was a Good One, and I would Like to Hear some More on the Particulars and Methods if You dont Mind Sharing "hunt it"! Please Feel Free to Add to the Thread, or if its a Secret, feel free to I.M. or Email me Sir!!

ejes · October 17, 2007, 06:31:00 PM

Shakes, I've tried the "drill bit jackhammering" method with carbons and it works good, but I don't know how it would work with aluminums; never tried it before. I posted this explanation in another thread if you want to try it as a last resort:

Quote Get a drill bit that is just barely the diameter that just fits inside the carbon shaft so that it will still slide inside the shaft and put it in. Then, as hard as you can, swing the arrow downward so that the drill bit travels from the nock end to the insert as fast as posslbe. It is like you were trying to sling the dril bit out of the arrow shaft if the insert wasn't in there with centripetal force. Doing this over and over again "jackhammers" the insert loose fromt the shaft. When you see the insert is just about worked loose, watch where you sling it carefully because it can come out with great force.

hunt it · October 18, 2007, 10:41:00 AM

Use a smaller caliber gun cleaning rod and insert it inside shaft. Once it hits insert just pull it back 8-10" and slam it back into insert. Three or four taps will unseat most inserts. I have not had any to date that I have not been able to get out with this metheod.