"Cat Whisker Guy" Giving BOW HUSH/HUSH PUPPIES a Try! ***1st update pg 2***

[Big Ed]

Well done Ryan!!

[Ryan Sanpei]

Thank you guys! I'm going outside to tie on the Bow Hush right now!  

[Ryan Sanpei]

This test will be a little different as I don't get much noise from the limb tips which I feel is partially due to them being static.

Even though, I'll usually use some type of string groove dampener. This specific one was velcro.



Again I wanted to see speeds with them off and on. At the most 1 fps, so negligible.

[Ryan Sanpei]

Then I served the Bow Hush onto my string. I went about 1" past the string/limb contact point.

 

Again at the most, 1 fps loss in speed and that could just be my shooting inconsistencies.

Now for the sound. I'll be honest, I personally couldn't tell much difference between the two. To be fair, I think I'll need to apply the different silencers to a dynamic tipped bow.

Now if we're going for looks, I'll take the Bow Hush...    

[Ryan Sanpei]

Bottom line at this point...

Yes I'm going to install wool silencers for my new rig. I will continue to experiment with size and placement for awhile. LOL!

I will give them a run in the field for at least one year straight.

Should be fun!!!

[Pheonixarcher]

Great info Ryan! Thanks for taking the time to do this, and posting the results. Your experimentation, and insight has helped myself, and I'm sure numerous others. Keep up the great work. And thanks for your contributions to this great site.

As far as the placement of the "puff balls" go, I personally have had the best results following the heterodyning theory. I place the top silencer at the 1/4 mark, and the bottom at the 1/3 mark. I've tried other combinations of placement and types of silencers, but this has become my go to set up.

If the bow only has a slight twang to the string, I've found the wool string scallops from Two Tracks, in the same heterodyning positions, to be sufficient. But if the bow has a little more thump or buzz to it, then Terry's wool puff balls are the way to go!  I'm very happy with these products.

I'll agree that you'll notice a much bigger difference on a working tip curve, than a static. I've got a super shrew scout, that is a great shooting bow, but without the bow hush and hush puppies, I wouldn't take it to the deer woods. Now it's quieter than some of my hybrid longbows!

Thanks again, and please keep us posted on your results.

[ron w]

Glad to see your going to try it for a year long test. Long term should let you develop a strong opinion.......good or bad!!      

[Ryan Sanpei]

Thank you for the kind words Paul!

I'll need to try that placement theory. Thank you for your insight, I really appreciate it!

Have a great weekend.    

[Ryan Sanpei]

*****What I'm playing around with now is not something that is instructed by Bow Hush.*****

For certain recurve bows (not the one I'm currently using in the testing) the limbs from the limb tips can really be an issue.

I wanted to see if I could build a Hush Puppy where the string first contacts the limb tips. I took the same amount of strands (34) but this time I trimmed them to 1/2" from center (this is not recommended per instructions). To keep them from flying apart, I tied the center again. Yes this is tedious, but only takes me about 4 minutes per silencer to do. I also left tag ends to tie to the string once installed.

 

[Ryan Sanpei]

At first, I was apprehensive about separating the string near the loops. After initial installation, it looked safe enough for me to shoot. I also build my strings with a longer tag end than "normal".

*****Caution, if you don't build your own strings or know how your string is constructed, never mess around with the twists on your end loops!*****

 

[Ryan Sanpei]

Trimmed down and fluffed, here's what it looks like completed.

 

 

[Ryan Sanpei]

Again, testing it on this specific static tipped recurve will be hard. I'm sure that one of my friends nearby has a noisy recurve.    :D

 

[Steve O]

Always on the cutting edge (no pun intended...) brah; I am from now on going to tie each and every strand of yarn in rather than just throwing half a bundle in there and smushing tight!

You are going thru an awful lot putting the puppies by the loops--twist the hush on there!

[Ryan Sanpei]

Originally posted by S2 Bowstrings:
Then I served the Bow Hush onto my string. I went about 1" past the string/limb contact point.

   

Again at the most, 1 fps loss in speed and that could just be my shooting inconsistencies.

Now for the sound. I'll be honest, I personally couldn't tell much difference between the two. To be fair, I think I'll need to apply the different silencers to a dynamic tipped bow.

Now if we're going for looks, I'll take the Bow Hush...          

Yes you're absolutely correct Steve! My first try was with the Bow Hush. As you stated, it's just as good and way easier to install.  Just playing around...

Staci told me the same thing... She said just go back to the Bow Hush for the limb tips. Can't win them all...    

[Ryan Sanpei]

Steve, if you decide to tie them in, I'm currently tying two strands at a time. I start with them a little long so I don't have to worry too much about centering, then trim to length before installing. Also, I tie two strands right over left, then two strands left over right... If you want to, you could tie the knots in all the same direction to follow the twists of your string, but then the yarn starts to twist up and it gets a little harder to keep the strands even when inserting into the string.

[Steve O]

Ahhhh, sorry, I missed a few posts on the end of the last page.

Thanks for the tips. Is that just discoloration on your biner in those photos of the string stretcher or have you coated it with something?

[Ryan Sanpei]

Just years and years of excess string wax!    :D

[newhouse114]

Has anyone done a side by side comparison between wool and beaver fur. I've always used beaver.

[Ryan Sanpei]

Sorry newhouse114, I haven't done a side by side comparison between wool and beaver fur yet. Hopefully I'll get to test more silencing materials in the near future.