Strings and nocks?

[S.C. Hunter]

I just received my new Primal Styk today. She is a beauty 66"56#@28". I have a few questions regarding strings and nocks. My string on my new bow seems short but it has stretched a little since I have put a few arrows through it today. Suggested brace height is 6 3/4"- 7" inches. The lowest brace height I have been able to get so far is about 7 3/8. The string is D97 I believe, and 16 strands. This brings me to another question, on my other bow that I sold I was able to shoot my GT 5575 and my POC arrows without a problem. The serving, or the serving and string size combined must be larger because my nocks on the gold tips are pretty tight. Would a 14 strand string make enough difference in string size to shoot both nocks? I have left the bow strung to see if the strings moves but not sure it will make much difference with this type of string. Any thoughts would help. One other note the bow is quite but on the POC I can hear the arrow moving out or should I say I hear the fletching cut through the air. I don't recall this with the other bow. Maybe this one is slightly faster don't know.

[McDave]

I you wanted to, you could probably replace the serving on your string with a smaller diameter serving that would fit your nocks. I like to adjust serving size to fit the nocks, since most nocks have a standard sized opening, and it is a pain to adjust all the individual nocks.

Or, going down to 14 strands might do the trick. Certainly, 14 strands is adequate, or even 8 if you use some of the newer string materials. With 8, you would have the opposite problem, of having to build up the serving.

[S.C. Hunter]

Originally posted by McDave:
I you wanted to, you could probably replace the serving on your string with a smaller diameter serving that would fit your nocks. I like to adjust serving size to fit the nocks, since most nocks have a standard sized opening, and it is a pain to adjust all the individual nocks.

Or, going down to 14 strands might do the trick. Certainly, 14 strands is adequate, or even 8 if you use some of the newer string materials. With 8, you would have the opposite problem, of having to build up the serving.

That may work just adjust the serving. I had the opposite problem once before. Th string was good on the GT nocks but too small for the nocks on my POC arrows.

[Jasper2]

Ditto what David said. If the nocks are not crazy tight I have found that new serving "breaks in" or smashes down quite a bit under the nock especially the thicker stuff. I have actually squeezed both sides of the serving with needle nose pliers on several occasions to speed up this process and flatten it somewhat with good results.
Take care,
Jason

[Orion]

Are you saying you can't untwist the string a little to reduce the brace height?  If that's the case, the string is basically worthless to you so you might as well make your next string 12 or 14 strands.

[S.C. Hunter]

Originally posted by Orion:
Are you saying you can't untwist the string a little to reduce the brace height?  If that's the case, the string is basically worthless to you so you might as well make your next string 12 or 14 strands.

Yes basically that is what I am saying. When I took it from the box and put the string on it was almost at 8" of brace height. I turned it first counter clock wise and it went up to 8". I then turned it clock wise to the point of where I started and then proceeded to keep twisting it and got it to about 7 1/2". I held the bow at full draw for about 20 seconds and repeated about 5 times, shot about a dozen arrows. I then left the bow strung and it is now at 7 1/4". But as I said the suggested brace height is 6 3/4"-7". I will try it again tomorrow and see if I can get twist it more to see if it moves.

[Alexander Traditional]

I bought some new strings the other day,and the serving was good for some of my arrows,but way too tight for the TSX nocks I  wanted to shoot. I tried a trick I heard of here on Trad Gang. I boiled some water and did it that way. They are a perfect fit now.

[ddauler]

Use a small piece of leather fold it on string and rub it up and down hard with bow strung this will cause heat from friction. It will heat wax and let string stretch a little. If not what others said.

[S.C. Hunter]

Okay update. I spoke with Vikki and she said the string that came with my bow is fast flight. I assumed it was the D97 because it is the standard string and what they suggest for their bows. It appears the person making the strings is making fast flight currently. I guess this may be the reason the brace height will not move. I did finally get the string down to 7 1/4" brace height but it will not come down anymore at the current string length.

My question now, is will the D97 be much different from the fast flight with regards to the stretching of the string. I have mostly shot the B50 dacron strings but have shot the others as well. What is a good string material that allows some stretch but performs well?

[Flying Dutchman]

Talk to Pierre from SBD strings! He is a sponsor here too.

[onewhohasfun]

A brand new bow that will not brace correctly with the stock string? Hmmmmm. Careful taking ALL the twist out of a flemish string. Could be trouble. Listen to Flying Dutchman.

[katman]

I would expect the bowyer to send a correct length string with the bow.

If no help there give LBR or SBD a call and order a string that will fit your prefered nock.

[Whip]

A well made string should have approximately one twist per inch.  Take a look at your string, measure a 10" section, and count the number of twists in that section.  If it is over 10, you have room to untwist further which will lower your brace height.  Much less than one twist per inch and you run the risk of the string coming undone, and as suggested, the bowyer should send you a new one. (Assuming that you bought it new)

[2treks]

10 strand of D97(or Fast Flight) and 030 halo is a good bet for you. Oliverstacy can set you up if need be. Just tell him what you are shooting for nocks and he will know what to do for you, and the string will be exactly what length you tell him it needs to be.
His strings are very good and turn around time is quick.

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