String Nock Placement and Arrow Flight

[mrpenguin]

I've been shooting some 23/64 chundoo arrows out of my savannah  and have a recurring issue with a kick in the arrow.  The arrows don't porpoise, but they do kick tail-up shortly after release.  I have moved my brass nock ring up and down and cannot seem to alleviate the issue.  I tried adjusting my finger placement on the string and that did not really help either.  This only happens with these arrows.  I've shot 2117's smoothly and 440 carbons plus a slightly heavier spined 23/64 chundoo...

What's going on here??

[T Sunstone]

Sounds like you might have feather clearance problems.  Try turning your knock some.

[magnus]

Eric.
Are your nocks to tight? They should hold but come off when you tap on the riser. Bow pointing down of course. That's my only thought. Good luck.

Magnus

[mrpenguin]

Magnus,

I did loosen them up and they are just about perfect. They hold on the string, but a light tap releases them.  I almost wonder if there is just something about the particular spine on these arrows that the bow doesn't like... I love woodies, but man are they temperamental!

[magnus]

I figured you had that taken care of. Maybe like T said above feather clearance. Hopefully some of the more experienced folks will chime in. One last thought. How's your rest? I had some crazy arrow flight till I noticed my rest was worn. Good luck buddy.

Magnus

[WESTBROOK]

Tried cock feather in??

[Ken Babicky]

It may not be your nock or setup at all. I had a similar problem I developed several years ago and finally determined I wasn't drawing using my back muscles. As soon as I became concious of that and focused on my draw, making sure I was pinching my shoulder blades together, the problem went away and hasn't come back. I think what happened in my case was when I was releasing, I must have been putting pressure on the arrow in one direction or another rather than the straight back pull the back muscles force you to do.  Give it a shot.

[onewhohasfun]

Had some low profile 5 in. banana fletch that kicked tail high no matter what I tried. I think they were just too stiff. Cut em off and refletched with sheilds and they flew great. Seems odd but it worked.

[lpcjon2]

Is there any marks on the strike plate or rest that could indicate what may be hitting? You can put some spray foot powder on the arrow(crown and feathers) and shoot it and see if the arrow is making contact in the rear in a bad spot.Just an idea.

[olddogrib]

If somebody had some slightly weaker spined shafts you could try(or heavier points), I wouldn't rule out that they might be on the stiff side. I shoot 3 under and seem to always come back to 5/8ths inch on nock height.  I just had a couple pounds reduced off the limbs of one bow and started getting a slight nock high.  Moved the nock up down and back, but didn't fix it until I went up 25 grains on point weight.

[Old York]

If you can stand to strip off some feathers on a few of those chundoos, shoot them bare and see what happens. You might have a spine issue, I know, I know, spine is supposed to be only lateral, but sometimes....    

How much different is the spine on these compared to your other chundoos?

Also, you could try starting really high on your nockset and then slowly bring it down in small increments. And a "below arrow nock" tied-in nock set might help.

[Bjorn]

If you can use 2117 with your bow, I suspect you are under spined with these shafts. I would leave everything the same, remove the fletching and see how they fly at 20 yds.

[Art B]

My buddy's arrows do the same thing Erik. He's either heeling the handle of his bow too hard or it's his release causing his problem IMO.  Cause others can shoot his setup without getting that little flip that he's experiencing. Something maybe to look into. ART

[snag]

What were you shooting out of this bow before you went to the woodies? Did you adjust the nock pt. before shooting the woodies? If you were shooting a shaft that was not as wide as the 23/64" you should expect to get the results you have now.

[nutmeg]

I agree with Art B whole completely. (nut)