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Firestarting basic's
« on: October 27, 2023, 03:32:59 PM »
  There are hundreds of ways to start a fire in the field when needed.  I have done many of them, but I am going to describe two basic ones, that have always worked for me.  (Hint-it is not rubbing sticks together).
  The basics of a fire, are fuel source (tinder/wood), oxygen, and ignition source.
Oxygen- luckily is all around us, however one must keep in mind that at higher altitudes there is less in the air, thus getting a fire started is much more challenging.
Fuel source- the material must have a low moisture content for it to ignite well.  If have wood in timber that has been rained on, we are looking at wood, that when you pull on it, it makes a "crack noise", like a fire crackling, this will be dry enough for the fire.  Gather plenty of wood, that is like this.
Ignition source- Of the thousand way, I am only going to recommend and talk about 2 that never let me down.  Bic lighter- they are cheap and easy to use, I put a little duct tape around it and have two in my pack.  Ferrocerium rod (Fero Rod)- a metal alloy pen shaped rod, that when struck produces sparks (Note: do not go cheap wally world one, get a Überleben Zünden Fire Starter, Light my fire, or Eotac one.)

Now the secret to getting a fire going quickly, is the tinder bundle.  A tinder bundle is small dry material, that is bunched up, so when a flame/spark hits it, it will catch and burn.  Picture a birds nest under your outdoor porch.  It is dry, small twigs that has room for oxygen to flow through.  You can also make a tinder bundle, from wood shavings off dry branches, as Mori Kochanci describes in his book.  Whatever you have, I want you to place them, in a row.  The small tinder bundle, then small twigs, then little big bigger twigs (about thick as pinky finger, in half), then wood size of pinky finger, then up from there.  Now I am going to share another little trick that makes it even more efficient and I have these little items in my pack always too.  One is cotton balls, that have been rubbed with petrolum Jelly, the other is few small birthday trick candles.  Both are cheap and easy to use, the cotton balls catch spark quick, the birthday trick candles resist high wind good, and once fire started put out for later use.

Okay, we have our fuel source laid out, now take the PJ cotton ball, and fluff it up a bit, use two if want but one will work fine.  Now that it is fluffed up, place it in middle of the tinder bundle.  Take your Fero rod, notice that it is color black, go ahead and scrape a lot of the black off, so you see silver.  The black is protective coating, the silver is what we are after.  Now place the rod down by the PJ cotton ball, using a scraper/spine of carbon steel knife/spine of saw on swiss army knife, lay it on the rod.  Now, do not push the scraper into the PJ cotton ball, as will push it away, instead, pull the rod away from the scraper, as you push straight down with the scraper.  The sparks will be thrown into the PJ cotton ball (with a big lighter, do same with sparks or flame).
It will light, now roll it into the dry tinder bundle with stick/knife, if it just smolders, carefully pick it up above your mouth about 8" away, and lightly blow air into it (this way any spit/moisture, drops instead of going into dry bundle).  Once it catches flame, set it down and slowly start adding the half pinky size sticks (popsicle sticks work great too).  Do not smother it, we have to nurture it, and get solid embers going, not done yet.  As the sticks catch fire, add few more.  Then add one stick of pinky size stick, then keep adding the half pinky ones.  Once, the pinky size catches flame, add few more.  It is at this stage, you should have a small fire, that you can add bigger and bigger sticks.

If you have a charcoal grill at home, you can lay some foil down and practice this anytime, this is how I taught my kids to build fire.  I recommend keeping the PJ cotton balls in little duct tape ball, as the duct tape torn in strips can be used as kindling too. 

One other tip, I have worn glasses all my life and found this out early on.  If you have sun, you can use your glasses to focus the sun's rays down to very small thermal point, that will catch kindling too.

Make up few PJ cotton balls, keep a few in your pack with lighter/ferro rod and you will always have means to make a basic fire.  So you can stay warm, boil water.

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Re: Firestarting basic's
« Reply #1 on: October 27, 2023, 04:41:28 PM »
Thanks for the tips , I’ve learned something new. I thought,( although I should have known better ) that all ferro rods were the same. I have a cheap one but I’ve never tried to start a fire with it , I need to get a good one and practice.
I do take pride in starting a campfire or fire in the fire pit to try for a “one matcher”
I can usually start a fire with 1 wooden match. Fat wood or lightard as we call it in the south can be found in almost any woods. I take a sliver of it and cut smaller slivers into it leaving them attached this with light very quick. Also dry pine cones work well as kindling.
 I think I’ll also make some or the cotton balls you mentioned.
Thanks for the tips.
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Re: Firestarting basic's
« Reply #2 on: October 27, 2023, 04:52:19 PM »
One of these days when this old Koot gets a decent connection, ( takes forever to load a page on here for me ) I'll teach how to make fire with nothing taken with you.
Buy the way, I don't like fero rods because you are so limited in many conditions.
But that's just my opinion and if you like them, that's fine, it's all good.
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Re: Firestarting basic's
« Reply #3 on: October 30, 2023, 07:42:49 AM »
I find that torch lighters  are more reliable in wind and wet conditions.

Also, for kindling, break off low dead branches off of trees, especially if it has been raining.  These will be much dryer than sticks and limbs lying on the ground.  This trick save my girls and I on a cabin trip we  won years ago from a long frigged night in that cabin.
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« Reply #4 on: October 30, 2023, 03:27:43 PM »
BTW, white pines are PERFECT for this, but not always available, so make do the best you can.  I have also used blow downs that have dead limbs elevated above ground....

Just use your head and you will figure it out...... bark of of aspen/birch trees.... another source.... shag bark hickory bark.  Just get a lot of kindling above ground and you will be well on your way!
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« Reply #5 on: October 30, 2023, 04:06:18 PM »
Here is the lighter I am referring to. That can be bought just about any gas station and it holds plenty of gas.





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Re: Firestarting basic's
« Reply #6 on: October 30, 2023, 04:23:29 PM »
Did anyone say Heart of Pine for the best tender in the world? AKA Fat Lighter?
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Re: Firestarting basic's
« Reply #7 on: October 30, 2023, 06:00:08 PM »
Paper off a Burch Tree burns violent even when wet.
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Re: Firestarting basic's
« Reply #8 on: October 31, 2023, 11:58:39 AM »
Thanks for sharing Terry seen them never used them.  As far as Pine no one has yet.  But, yes Pine is a great source since is naturally has a base form of Kerosene in it, Pine bark, Pine cones, dry pine needs.  The green pine needles, provide a natural source of Vitamin C, when brewed.

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Re: Firestarting basic's
« Reply #9 on: November 02, 2023, 10:03:30 AM »
Pitch is easy to find here in the northwest and works very well...I carry a fire kit 24/7 but never use it because I cheat and carry flares that will dry bout anything

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Re: Firestarting basic's
« Reply #10 on: January 15, 2024, 05:38:15 PM »
Got me thinking durp...I have a bunch of "expired" arial flares for my boat. Might be a good use for them in an emergency situation. Signal help and or start a fire.
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