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Offline Huntschool

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Hold over or under on 45* up hill or down hill shots
« on: May 08, 2020, 11:33:03 PM »
So, I posted this over on Pow Wow but got to thinking this may be more of a 3D competition question so I am going to post it here also.  If the Mods want to remove it I guess thats ok.  Here it is:

OK, so....  a few days ago I was talking with some shooting buds about shooting at steep angles.  Seemed like there were all kinds of answers.  I know what I try to do but what does everyone else do when you are shooting either up hill or down hill (45* or better) from a tree stand or on a 3D course.

Inquiring minds want to know......

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Re: Hold over or under on 45* up hill or down hill shots
« Reply #1 on: May 11, 2020, 09:51:18 AM »
Since I'm a gapper I actually aim. Just remember to lean your torso up or down or shift your hips back or forth to keep the "T". I add about 5 yards more for uphill and shoot the exact distance downhill or targets 20-25 yards.
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Re: Hold over or under on 45* up hill or down hill shots
« Reply #2 on: May 11, 2020, 10:47:01 AM »
Reddogge, when you say you “shoot the exact distance downhill,” do you mean the horizontal distance or the line of sight distance?
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Re: Hold over or under on 45* up hill or down hill shots
« Reply #3 on: May 12, 2020, 09:30:18 AM »
I'm shooting line of sight distance, the distance my brain perceives the target to be from me. We have a raised shooting stand at the club that isn't too awfully high and the animal is always placed at 25-27 yards horizontal distance and I undershoot it frequently because I shoot it for 25 and it's more like 30 line of sight. I need to take the range finder one day.
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Re: Hold over or under on 45* up hill or down hill shots
« Reply #4 on: May 12, 2020, 02:27:25 PM »
Interesting.  I tend to overshoot more in those circumstances, and have to override my natural instincts and shoot purposely low.
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Re: Hold over or under on 45* up hill or down hill shots
« Reply #5 on: May 12, 2020, 11:48:36 PM »
Gentlemen:  I think we are getting to the crux of my question now.....  Lets see where this goes.
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Re: Hold over or under on 45* up hill or down hill shots
« Reply #6 on: May 13, 2020, 12:17:59 AM »
I tend to overshoot the target because I’m not generally aware of what the horizontal distance is, and shoot the distance I see, which is the line of sight distance. I know from experience that if I hold about 6” low, I’ll generally be about right in the typical tree stand I shoot. The 6” is a rough way of compensating for the shorter horizontal distance I should be using to gauge the distance.
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Re: Hold over or under on 45* up hill or down hill shots
« Reply #7 on: May 13, 2020, 06:33:54 PM »
I found, years ago (compound shooting), before elevated stands were eliminated from IBO shooting, that I could walk to the front of the stand and get a good line of site reading to the target.  The lawyers put a lot of fun target points to rest with liability claims....  Go figure
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Re: Hold over or under on 45* up hill or down hill shots
« Reply #8 on: May 13, 2020, 07:11:10 PM »
Both uphill and downhill shooting requires practice in order to do it well. Baltimore Bowmen and our club have both uphill and downhill shots. One in particular at Baltimore are the two rams severely uphill in the rocks. One ram is about 20 yards and the other ram is about 25 yards. A miss usually will result in a broken arrow.
« Last Edit: May 14, 2020, 04:05:16 PM by reddogge »
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