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Offline Timo

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Re: pony bow
« Reply #20 on: August 03, 2003, 09:01:00 AM »
Calvin,....Duh....He's already growd up!He Don't mess around riding ponies anymore,he got full growd horses!  :bigsmyl:  

LOL at Mickey.
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« Reply #21 on: August 03, 2003, 11:06:00 AM »
Timo,  damn neer fell'd off my chair when I read your response.

Calvin, after making about 8 of them, two of which I kept, the others were given away.  I found out that they look great on the wall, but I can't hit a barn door with'm at 10 yards.  What goods a bow you can put in your back pocket if ya can't hit anything with it.

So now I'm back to the 58 to 60" bows.  I shoot them alot better.  Well, I can at least hit the barn door now.

What's weird is what I consider long 60", many consider short.  

Can't wait to see your "straight" pony bow.

Frank
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Offline the Ferret

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Re: pony bow
« Reply #22 on: August 03, 2003, 11:29:00 AM »
Timo, just for discussion purposes I consider pony bows and splinter bows to be virtually the same thing. Skinny relatively short self backed or sinew backed wooden bows which can be straight, reflexed, reflex deflexed, recurved, cupid shaped (man I want to build one of those)static tipped and either bendy handled or semi bendy handled. I think 60" long would be about max for a pony bow (guess it depends on the size of your pony) although all my description is certainly rather arbitrary. Your hatchet bow was a little long but otherwise a perfect example of a pony bow to me.

What are you guys calling pony bows?
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Offline Frank

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Re: pony bow
« Reply #23 on: August 03, 2003, 11:40:00 AM »
Mickey,

I always figured a bow less than 50" in the selfbow bare or backed with sinew was a pony bow.

That cupid bow you are referring to is a goal of mine also.  Many years ago, PA ran an article on how to make one along with the form.  I cut it out and it is in my bow building folder.  If you want a copy, let me know and I will copy and fax it to you.

Okay, what's the difference between a "pony bow" and a "horse bow"?

Frank
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Offline Madpigslayer

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« Reply #24 on: August 03, 2003, 12:15:00 PM »
Please join with me brothers. turn to page 18 of your hymnal (in this case Bows and Arrows of the Native Americans) lower left hand page.

You will notice a Northern Plains bow of Ash, this is where I got the dims to use for this bow. You will notice also that it has some reflex/deflex in it. So my little "straight" bow will suffer a "mindchange" I am afraid. This time it wont be blamed on rock and roll.

Thanks Jawge, I think this one will work.

Timo, I am blessed to have you along. I just know you have a set of "Jethro" teeth in the side table. Probably kept in a "Cope" can too I bet? LOL.


ferret...I am calling a Pony bow a short bow. capable of being shot of a horse, and in the Indian style. I think "Horse" bows are those Euro style (often horn) kind of recurvey thingies.

I think if I was 48" tall, a 48" bow would be considered a longbow. so therefore we should measure the long bone in our shin, multiply it by 4, carry the one...add 2" depending on what side of the border you live. Just in general make it hard for people to figure out. I expect Tom Sawyer to be along with "upper learnin" type analysis anytime now.

whaddya think Frank? was it difficult to shoot the shorties on account of the draw length, or what was the main reason do you figure?
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Offline Frank

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Re: pony bow
« Reply #25 on: August 03, 2003, 12:30:00 PM »
Calvin,

I think I had a few problems.  One is that I keep drawing the darn things too far back.  I found that given the right set up, you adjust your draw for the distance of the shot.  Another problem I ran into was of course finger pinch.  Tried a thumb ring and shot an arrow off to my right, way off to the right.

I just did not think that I was proficient enough to use the bow during hunting season.  So I expanded my bow length a bit.


Frank
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Offline Killdeer

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Re: pony bow
« Reply #26 on: August 03, 2003, 02:04:00 PM »
Holy schmoly! I dunno what to say!

I'm not worthy
I'm not worthy
I'm not worthy
I'm not worthy

A real honest-to-Sam-Hill Rsuty-style Trashwood Special Bow just for little (that's a lie) ol' (that's not a lie) smart-mouth me?

I hope folks aren't thinking I'm laying it on too thick   :rolleyes:    
but I am really floored.

I draw 26.5" and like 'em between 45 and 50 lbs.,
and you can tell me sorry but you were drunk and I will tell everybody that you made me the most perfect bow that the world has ever seen, and after killing the magnificent Odocoilus virginianus borealis with a humongously unmeasurable nontypical rack I offered it back up to God because that's where it belonged and sorry but I got no pictures of it because that woulda sucked the magic from its immortal soul howdja like some venison stew?

I can't think of a way to repay you, but I'll try. The things I know how to make or do, you can do ten times better. See if you can think of something you need that I could buy or make for you. I'm no slouch with a camera, but I dunno how that could help unless you want photos of something.

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And the song, from beginning to end, I found again in the heart of a friend.

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Offline Madpigslayer

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Re: pony bow
« Reply #27 on: August 03, 2003, 02:16:00 PM »
Quote
Originally posted by Killdeer:
 you can tell me sorry but you were drunk and I will tell everybody that you made me the most perfect bow that the world has ever seen, and after killing the magnificent Odocoiles virginianus borealis with a humongously unmeasurable nontypical rack I offered it back up to God because that's where it belonged and sorry but I got no pictures of it because that woulda sucked the magic from its immortal soul howdja like some venison stew?

Mailmom...that is a quality sense of humour! You get a permanent seat at my camp. I will write your name on it and everything.  "[tunglaff]"
...gosh this is hard.

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Offline Killdeer

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Re: pony bow
« Reply #28 on: August 03, 2003, 02:24:00 PM »
You can write? I was hoping to use that as barter bait on you!  :p  

Killdeer the Litrate
Long, long afterward, in an oak I found the arrow, still unbroke;
And the song, from beginning to end, I found again in the heart of a friend.

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Offline Killdeer

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Re: pony bow
« Reply #29 on: August 03, 2003, 02:26:00 PM »
And I thank ye kindly, Mr. Peters.

Your Most Humble and Obedient Servant,
Killdeere.
Long, long afterward, in an oak I found the arrow, still unbroke;
And the song, from beginning to end, I found again in the heart of a friend.

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Offline Madpigslayer

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Re: pony bow
« Reply #30 on: August 03, 2003, 02:47:00 PM »
eloquent. or like however ya spellit.
...gosh this is hard.

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Offline Timo

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Re: pony bow
« Reply #31 on: August 03, 2003, 04:17:00 PM »
Mickey,I'm kinda with Frank on the length. I recon you could stretch that number according to the individual.As far as width, I stand on the 1 1/4",max!(tapering of course).Their suppose to be smaller,compact versions of thier grown up brothers?Whether backed or not,(Well at least sinew),they should be small,tight quarter bows!

Just my take!

I of the beholder?

Calvin,Never put them in the can till after dark!

Whhhhaaaat?   "[tunglaff]"  

I like the way "Killdeer" says,

"I'm not worthy",but then quickly snaps out the specs on draw length,and weight! LOL, That one got me.    ;)
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Re: pony bow
« Reply #32 on: August 03, 2003, 08:27:00 PM »
LOL Killdree.  Now don't be pulling my leg about your draw lenght.   I don't want no amo AMO A.M.O. draws...none of 'em added inches.  I wanta know your draw!! The distance in inches, centimeter, millimeters or sumpin from your anchor point to the point your hand touches the bow.  ?????? I had 'em draw len with famtom inches......a draw len is a draw len what hangs off the front is sumpin else   :bigsmyl:  

Rusty

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« Reply #33 on: August 03, 2003, 08:42:00 PM »
Can ya see these AMO guys sitting around a table tring to deside how to measure draw lenght.  One of says I know I know....ya measure their draw from anchor point to where their hand first tounches the bow....and that is their draw lenght. Hmmmmmm next guys says man are you stupid or what.  To get the draw lenght your measure their "draw lenght" and add 1&1/2" to it.  What do ya want to do...make so people can understand it.  Next guy says well if we want to keep it arcane to our system lets measure the draw lenght in centimeters....that would confuse them.  Rest of the bunch looks at him and says "whats a centimeter..........

To be on a manufactors board of any kind ya have to get a mouth full of marbles.  Ya hit yourself in the head with a hammer till ya pass out,  when ya wake up ya spit out a marble.  Continue this process till all  your marbles are gone.  Now ya'as qualified to be on a manufactors board.

Rusty

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« Reply #34 on: August 03, 2003, 09:02:00 PM »
and of course the Texas Aggie wanted to measure it in inches of mercury pull by that distance from the anchor point to the hand on bow in a tube with a diameter of 1/1000 the distance of the lenght of a string which would brace the bow to a brace height of 1/8 the lenght of the string x 1000.  That would give a draw of 200 millibars for me  :) ....he was the engineer

the archer on the AMo board said "I know what myh draw lenght is and I ain't gonna tell ya"!

The pharmacist on the borad said  "who cares lets smoke this stuff"

The preacher on the board is stilling praying over it.

The selfboyer on the AMO board didn't care then and don't care now.

the bowhunter on the board is still tring to figure out what BH to use

The custom bow maker on the AMO board is still tring to figure oput how BW sale for....well you know

I'm still tring to figure out if the sun really comes up in the east.  I mean who decide that was east.  Does the sun rise in the est in China.  I bet they don't know the world east.  If ya'as in the near east does the suyn sit in the far west?

Rusty -anchor point to bow touche - CRaine

East ain't east it is ching do ping ding,,,watch for it

Offline Madpigslayer

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Re: pony bow
« Reply #35 on: August 03, 2003, 09:14:00 PM »
Rusty I like you more every day. and I liked ya a heap to start out with! this thread has the makings of a classic, and I aint done anything yet!!!LOL!!!
...gosh this is hard.

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Offline Killdeer

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Re: pony bow
« Reply #36 on: August 03, 2003, 09:39:00 PM »
Calvin, you get back to work and we'll keep this thread on top and ready for your input when you've actually accomplished something.

Rsuty, my draw lenght (sic) len(sic) Lent(I give up) is two and one third cubits. How I came to that conclusion I cannot fathom. I had it figured out, but not furlong. Just for the space of a single klick...

Um, I'll get back to ya.

Killeder.  "[dead]"  

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Long, long afterward, in an oak I found the arrow, still unbroke;
And the song, from beginning to end, I found again in the heart of a friend.

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Offline Timo

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Re: pony bow
« Reply #37 on: August 03, 2003, 09:48:00 PM »
Killdeer,2 cubits and a 1/3 would be..let me see...uuuummm 42"!   :scared:  

You got long arms!   :D
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« Reply #38 on: August 03, 2003, 09:49:00 PM »
O.K., it's twenty-five inches. Gee. I suddenly feel smaller. :(  
KD
Long, long afterward, in an oak I found the arrow, still unbroke;
And the song, from beginning to end, I found again in the heart of a friend.

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Re: pony bow
« Reply #39 on: August 03, 2003, 09:55:00 PM »
OK i' got ya a stick of osage picked out.  oooooo weeeeee it wants to be a pony bow badly.  I've had to tape her together jsut to keep the bow from falling out.  :)

Rusty

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