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Re: Laminated all Wood bow & matching turkey box call
« Reply #20 on: March 15, 2005, 10:06:00 AM »
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Re: Laminated all Wood bow & matching turkey box call
« Reply #21 on: March 15, 2005, 12:07:00 PM »
Had a little excess glue run out and around everything. Got it out of the form and un-wrapped the seran wrap. looks like it took pretty good. As far as having plenty of glue on it!
   

Reflex looks fairly even,
   

I am ready to grind it down to the profile lines and see what the glue lines look like.
   

The Handle and the fades are makeded a total of 7" right now,,, but I left room for change..

  I have to glue on a laminated handle,,,
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Re: Laminated all Wood bow & matching turkey box call
« Reply #22 on: March 15, 2005, 05:33:00 PM »
using a belt sander I got the glue off and got it down to the profile lines I had draw out on the hickory backing earlier.

I was skeptical myself, but the glue lines look good to me,,, but what do I know.
 
 

1 1/2" reflex induced by the form and glue up held up pretty well.
 
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Re: Laminated all Wood bow & matching turkey box call
« Reply #23 on: March 15, 2005, 09:04:00 PM »
Well I'm sorry I didn't get back into your thread Osagetree.  I don't know how I missed it.  Looks like the bands worked out fine.  

This is not really typical of how I do most bows but demonstrates the principle.  I use more wraps generally and no backer (a broom handle ripped in 1/2) for boo.  I have started tapering my core more and usually put reflex and deflex in a glue up.

 http://home.midsouth.rr.com/ddmims/hoh1.JPG

Looks like your project is coming along nicely.  You gonna do the handle glue up next?

Man that box call is cool as Christmas.

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Re: Laminated all Wood bow & matching turkey box call
« Reply #24 on: April 05, 2005, 09:23:00 PM »
Well got back around to this project today.

Since my last post I added a handle overlay and laminated on a handle. I did not get many pictures of its construction or of when I cut in the center shot shelf. Sorry, I just forgot about taking them.


     

Cherry, Walnut and Osage
 
     

Glue up the handle pieces and begin shaping the handle
 


 


 Last time I was working on the bow, I was trying to thin out the hickory backing. PROBLEM! About 6" from the tips I got below 3/16" thick on the backing.        :mad:      
My solution was to add extra long 5 1/2" tip overlays to reinforce the backing. Keeping with the box call theme, I incorperated the osage, cherry and walnut.

I don't know if this overlay solution will work and remember when looking at the pics, the tillering has yet to begin.

Tips before overlays

     

Tip With overlays

     


Profile

     

Everything is still rough at this point. I will touch up the handle and round over the edges on the hickory backing before starting on the tillering.

 This is my first laminated bow and I have not read up on the how to's do's and dont's except from ideas gathered on this site.
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Re: Laminated all Wood bow & matching turkey box call
« Reply #25 on: April 06, 2005, 09:33:00 AM »
Osagetree, looks good to me, but what do I know. (founder of the newby for life club)
I want do make something similar, so I'm very interested in this thread. Have you discovered any, "I'll do that differently on the next one" situations yet?

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Re: Laminated all Wood bow & matching turkey box call
« Reply #26 on: April 06, 2005, 06:28:00 PM »
The only thing I can think of right now on the, I should've thing,,,, is getting the backing thinned down before the glue up.
Not many comments on this thread,,, maybe it's like if you aint got nothing nice to say don't say it at all!

Or it's just boring  "[moon]"
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Re: Laminated all Wood bow & matching turkey box call
« Reply #27 on: April 06, 2005, 06:37:00 PM »
I'm in shut up and pay attention mode. Please carry on.
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Re: Laminated all Wood bow & matching turkey box call
« Reply #28 on: April 06, 2005, 07:59:00 PM »
Nice profile on that bow Joe but the handle looks kinda complicated...sorta like a wooden handled compound ha ha albeit a pretty one.   ;)
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Re: Laminated all Wood bow & matching turkey box call
« Reply #29 on: April 06, 2005, 09:14:00 PM »
Trying to round over the edges of the hickory backing, I am using a #220 sanding belt. Someone wise described its finished edge should be as "like a garden pea".

 


I also read a post on here, some where's said "Hickory loves burnishing, it needs it". I took a socket to just test it on the edge. I see what the guy meant. The hickory just shined right up like you had put finish oil on it. The more I rubbed the harder and shiny it looked.
I thought if I hooked up something in a drill chuck, I could really get some speed and friction going,,, I may try it.

 


Sorry about the pics, I can not get any closer shots than that! Camera is cheap!!


Mickey, I like the profile also. It may end up with a little reflex after shooting a bit! If it makes it! It aint going to have no wheels,,,no matter what the handle looks like! LOL
I saw your recent post,,, Them Turk's were pulled in your back yard by the "MOJO" I put on your box call.(just kidding) Did the scratch box call ever come around?
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Re: Laminated all Wood bow & matching turkey box call
« Reply #30 on: April 06, 2005, 09:23:00 PM »
Joe I'm still 50/50 with it on yelps but closer to 75/25 if I keep it well chalked. Tell you what though, it does an awesome purr and cluck!
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Re: Laminated all Wood bow & matching turkey box call
« Reply #31 on: April 07, 2005, 08:51:00 AM »
No, I think they say nice things anyway. Did you happen to see the comments on my hickory self bow? I think Mickey hit it on the head, something like "narly mother" but in a nice way.  :)  My thought was uglier than a mud fence, and took a little set like the titanic took a little water.

keep going on the bow, I can't wait to see finished pics.

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Re: Laminated all Wood bow & matching turkey box call
« Reply #32 on: April 07, 2005, 04:37:00 PM »
Thanks benzy,, I know what ya mean! I got the feeling Mickey did not like my handle.

He said "Nice profile on that bow Joe but the handle looks kinda complicated...sorta like a wooden handled compound ha ha albeit a pretty one."

I'll bet he could tell you off and you would think he was a great guy.   :saywhat:  He should be a salesman!


I did not get to see your hickory self bow post, I will look for though.
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Re: Laminated all Wood bow & matching turkey box call
« Reply #33 on: April 07, 2005, 04:52:00 PM »
LOL I "AM" a salesman!  ;)  
 
Hey, I'm not the one who has the sign off that says "I don't give them hell. I tell the truth and they THINK it's hell!" ha ha..maybe I should steal it     :knothead:
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Re: Laminated all Wood bow & matching turkey box call
« Reply #34 on: April 07, 2005, 04:58:00 PM »
I'm sure he liked it, just not his style. You can search for my bow if you want... I'ts not much to look at. A real lumpy stave that I didn't try to straighten. It is my first shooter though. The cool thing is a guy I work with is airbrushing a camo patern over the canvas back, and a jagermeister (spell?) deer head on the belly. I don't think its worth his effort, but I can't wait to see it.
I built a form for the type of bow your making last night, and I'll be ripping hickory backing tonight. Thats why I'm so interested in this thread. Your gonna lead me to a sweet lookin / shootin bow!
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Re: Laminated all Wood bow & matching turkey box call
« Reply #35 on: April 07, 2005, 08:24:00 PM »
I have always checked a bows tillering on my kitchen floor grid pattern. Did not have room for a tiller station in the shop.

This evening, I adjusted the shop and by gosh made room!

After finding a burnishing method I could impose on the hickory backing and post some more pic's, I will start the tillering while standing at a distance from this multiple layer wood laminate bow.

I was no where near as nervous about bending my first selfbow as I am this one!

 Mickey   :p    I knew it, I knew it, your a salesman!        :bigsmyl:
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Re: Laminated all Wood bow & matching turkey box call
« Reply #36 on: April 07, 2005, 09:15:00 PM »
Here is the start of my new tillering station that I made room for in my little shop

   

Could be better. But, it will do for a while.
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Re: Laminated all Wood bow & matching turkey box call
« Reply #37 on: April 07, 2005, 10:26:00 PM »
It's DE-LUX compared to mine Joe.   :thumbsup:
Note* rope is too short..you need to get back about 6-8 feet. Also, drill a hole in the middle of a 12" section of broom handle, feed your rope thru and tie and big ol knot. Will make pulling the rope and flexing the limbs MUCH easier 8~)

Benzy I like any bow a guy makes with his own hands that flings arrows..both the bow and the bowyer get    :thumbsup:    :thumbsup:  for desire, effort and persistance! I make lots of lumpy bows...got 3 in the works right now.
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Re: Laminated all Wood bow & matching turkey box call
« Reply #38 on: April 08, 2005, 08:03:00 AM »
Mickey, that's pretty much what I figured all along. You actually described it very well! No insult intended, or taken.  :)

Now back to our regularly scheduled program...

What do you guys think about Wingnuts bulletwood for a project like this instead of osage? Of course it won't be a 70#'er, just a moderate 50 - 55. Do you know if it would take a little r/d?

Thanx,

Rob

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Re: Laminated all Wood bow & matching turkey box call
« Reply #39 on: April 08, 2005, 04:22:00 PM »
Mickey, as always good sound advice. Thanks for the tips.

Benzy, I would like to see pics of your construction in a post when you can!

It may be a day or so before I get back to this thread. Reality,,, I am going to have to deal with that a while.    :rolleyes:
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