This is a bow I just finished using a Jim and Buddy 21st century "Nova" "Lone Star" for a profile copy. It ended up as 64" and 46# @ 28". It's a Kingwood riser with English Yew veneers on the back, black glass on the belly. I have 2 lams of vertical flooring bamboo and 1 black uni-weft lam. Very pleased with the way this one shoots.
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Jim and Buddy original on the left. I made my own variations in the riser to suit.
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You are talented my friend!!!!!
Looks like a shooter , and that grip looks amazing
Nice job!! That looks great :thumbsup:
Man id love to shoot that one a few times
Is 21st Century out of business? :dunno:
:thumbsup: :clapper:
Really like 21st bows, and you did a really nice job there those are something to be proud of :clapper:
Looks great. Did you reverse taper the core laminations? I couldn't tell from the pictures.
Very nice looking bow Dave. You did a great job building this one, just as you did others.
Tony
A really nice looking bow!
Very nice lookin' stick!
Bisch
Great job...it looks great!
Gordon, I did not reverse the tapers as the original Jim Plone design. It shots very well as it is, however, I may try the reverse taper in my next one. This one has one parallel, and one .002 taper to the tip.
Thanks all for the compliments.
Hey Tony, hope your season is going well, and Merry Christmas. See you in March.
Very nice!!
I like that bow!
Nice work !!! :thumbsup:
Great work...really like the wood choices.!
Job well done!
Sweet!
Glad someone is giving new life to this design, nice work.
I guess you learn something every day. I had no idea these bows were no longer available.
open shop and start building,,,, I'll take a square handled nova!
Beautiful.
Like Tajue, I would take one too. 57# @ 28", 68" long Super Nova just like they used to make. That's my dream bow.
That is a beautiful bow!
Nicely done. I see you left more mass on the belly of the riser than the original, but given the length of the riser overall, do you find any difference in shooting qualities?
Nice job!!!
Bill, I know that Milton Callaway owned and was still making 21st Century Bows up until a couple of years ago (2013- 14) but his website is no longer available. I don't know if he's still making bows or not.
Green, I can't really shoot the original as it's 60 pounds (feels like 65) and my shoulders can't hold up even to make an opinion on comparison.
Tajue17, I actually made the first one out of this form using the square handle. No one liked it but me. I raffled that one off at our annual banquet and the member that got it promptly filed some finger grooves in it. Grips are so individual.
I'm just a garage style bow builder and have to work for a living. I was told by a very well known bowyer friend that the secret to becoming a wealthy bowyer is to have a wife with a really good job. I whole-heartedly agree with him. No offense, Bill ;) . You guys earn every penny you make.
I might make 1-2 more this winter but it's back to honey'do's by March.
Absolutely none taken, Dave. You could easily make a small fortune building bows but only if you start with a large fortune. :D All joking aside it is definitely not the easiest way to make a living.
Dave, beautiful bow and I bet it shoots as good as it looks. God willing I'll see you at Baltimore in a few months. Have a great Christmas and God bless, Scott.
Looks to me like you knocked that one out of the park!!!
Great looking bow.
Nice!
I agree, fantastic job on that one!!!!!
QuoteOriginally posted by zipper bowss:
Absolutely none taken, Dave. You could easily make a small fortune building bows but only if you start with a large fortune. :D
That's a great line!!!! LOL :biglaugh:
Hey Scott, thanks for the compliment. Looking forward to seeing you at the BBTC. I'm sure we'll talk before then. Wishing you and yours a very Merry Christmas. Dave
Yup that's a beauty (nice work!). Like you I prefer the smaller squarish (21st calls it a 'half moon') grip. I have both the full moon and half moon models and to me the the simple lines of the half moon just plain look better.
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Tajue17, I actually made the first one out of this form using the square handle. No one liked it but me. I raffled that one off at our annual banquet and the member that got it promptly filed some finger grooves in it. Grips are so individual.
that's because nobody spent the time getting used to it and understanding why it was originally shaped like that, I'll opt for the square handle especially if I plan on holding it with winter gloves on :thumbsup:
Very nice. Great work.
I had a 21st and a triple crown. Drew them out and sware they are off the same form.
There are several differences side by side though. I made a 21st also.
At the end of the day I really prefered the 3crown..
I really think you can use that same form. Just move grip and shelf and trap limbs..
I also used the same lams as you but was thinking to increase rate on my next one.
Very nice!
Lou
Man that looks good. Awesome!
I think the reverse tapers on the original bows made them hinge at the riser fade outs. Because of this, they seemed to almost have a let off effect at full draw. Could be my imagination. Always wanted to make one with a little more reverse taper to see how it shot.
Gordon, although I might try one at some point, I'm not completely sold on the reverse tapers. The one I posted here shoots very well as is. I just started working on another one and kept the tapers the same as in the first one. I believe the hinge you speak about has more to do with the overall geometry, length of the riser and how it marries into the limbs. My original Lone Star has a very slight hint of that hinge while relaxed. Although not intended, my bow has a little bit more. I really need to put it back on the scale and see how it gains per inch from 25 - 30.
I know the Lone Star model bow was made differently than the other models to make it legal for the Texas Longbow Championship. I have a couple of Nova's that I could check the draw weight curves on. It would be interesting. I'm sure the difference the reverse tapers would make, would be slight. Like a lot of others, I just feel like the original 21st Century bows were very stable and great shooting bows and wish someone would start making them again.
Wow. Exceptional execution. I like the aesthetic changes to the riser geometry.
Hatrick whats the length of the riser on your bow? Really enjoy the lines and length of this style. Have tossed around the idea of building a form to copy the 21st century and you've renewed my interest thanks. Just wish I had one to copy. I've found pictures online that i think i can use sketchup to match the design and then play with supertiller to come up with tapers and possibly tip and power wedges. Got me a new 2016 project to challenge me and empty my pockets lol
Galen, the riser is 24". That's what I measured in my 21st Century which is a 64" bow. Also that was the longest riser stock I had. I would like to try and stretch it out to 26" with finer fade outs. I think it would marry into the limbs a little better. Sounds like a project you should be planning. The cost of building a few bows now and then is cheaper than some of the alternatives!! Besides, my wife always knows where she can find me. :D I just built another one and put a first coat of finish on this morning. It gains 2.5 lb per inch from 25 - 29". The new one turned out at 45#. I'm really liking the way these bows shoot.
My wife likes sending me to the garage too and I don't mind. I'll start playing with this this week as its supposed to snow most days this week. Thanks for the info and I'm looking forward to pictures of the new bow.