Count me among the skeptics. I thought there was no way a bow that short could be as good as the reviews I was reading. Well Steve Milbocker graciously offered to send me his to try out. My goodness is this thing awesome! I draw a shade over 29" and this little bow does it with ease. I had my buddy at work today give it a try with his 30" plus draw and again no issues. I've tried most of the short bows out there and I think this one is tops! This might just be the perfect backpack bow I've been looking for. Guess I know what I'm saving for this new year.
I shot a 56" "in stock" Pika at Dan's back in July when I was out on a fly fishing trip. It was as well-mannered as my Whips have been and smooth out to my 29" draw. I actually pulled a bit deeper and found no hint of stacking. I don't find longer bows problematic but if someone wanted a shorter bow this one is just about perfect.
Brad ain't it great! The 54" 2pc Dan sent me to try...well let's just say it's not going back :D
I thought I'd need a 56" with my 29ish draw but I'm pleased to report that the 54" basically hits peak efficiency at 29" based on my test. String angle at the tips is within limits and it feels good. Zero finger pinch. Not even crowd.
I took pics today, the review will be up in the next week.
I must say between the Pika, the Elkheart, Shrews, the Thunderchild, and a bunch more bows from great builders this community is absolutely spoiled rotten for 2pc short longbows.
Now I don't doubt you, but I'm not able to wrap my brain around a 54" at 29. Tells us about the grip on yours, rumor is that the more recent Pikas feel more like a centaur then a whip, which I believe I would like.
You have plenty of mad money now brother. Just order one.
Haha, I wish, all my fun money is tied up in Ribtek broadheads!
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Now I don't doubt you, but I'm not able to wrap my brain around a 54" at 29. Tells us about the grip on yours, rumor is that the more recent Pikas feel more like a centaur then a whip, which I believe I would like.
Yeah I was kinda in disbelief at first myself, the bows shape doesn't seem very radical compared to some others and yet somehow the string angle at the limb tips just manages to hit 90° at 29" yet not feel like hitting a wall at all, it even has a bit more left. Anyway, what it means is I'm getting every bit of power out of the bow, much like I did on that 56" Centaur I had
I think Dan recommends the 54" for 28.5" or less just to keep it well within the margin of smoothness, but it def can go a little more to 29ish no problem. I will have my brother take some pics at full draw later this week.
As for the grip, not sure who said Centaur, but this new one is somewhere between a Whip and a Chinook, it's actually seems a bit more slender than either of those but still fills my hand enough to be perfectly stable.
Chuck and Brad, good stuff....!! I've got a Pika on my mind, but it's gonna be hard to surpass my 2 pc Chinook, I know both of you guys are big fans of Dan's Chinook. How does the Pika compare in quietness, speed, hand shock, grip, etc....
Thanks guys..!!
Jr.
QuoteOriginally posted by Guss:
Chuck and Brad, good stuff....!! I've got a Pika on my mind, but it's gonna be hard to surpass my 2 pc Chinook, I know both of you guys are big fans of Dan's Chinook. How does the Pika compare in quietness, speed, hand shock, grip, etc....
Thanks guys..!!
Jr.
Guss, up to now the Chinook has been my favorite model. Honestly for all around honors I'd be hard pressed to choose between the two...with the Chinook you get a bit rounder, fuller grip. Its extra length and being a recurve means it will feel springier and smoother in draw also IMO. What the Pika brings to the table is extra compact size and longbow styling with great manners for such a tiny bow.
Performance wise I'd give the speed advantage to the Chinook, but the Lil Pika is no slouch. Hand "pulse" I'd rate them similar/equal. Sound level I'd say they are neck in neck, though I feel the Pika has a higher pitch to it due to the shortness, just like it would be on a short string instrument LOL.
I think my master plan is to have one of each someday LOL.
I think the Pika and the 58" Chinook feel very similar in shooting "feel." The grip on this one feels like a whip, on a custom order I'd just ask for a Chinook grip. I can't really speak to speed, as there's an 8 lbs. difference between bows.
Brad, Don't over think it and just order one!! :biglaugh:
Fred, only thing stopping me is the fun money account is low. The call will be made as soon as I can swing it. January bonus is looking spent!
Brad, you've got me itching to try on. Could never get along with my 58" shrew, but would like to try another shorty.
Brad, here's a few teaser pics to nudge you in that direction when you're ready.... :bigsmyl:
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Don't worry Izzy, I'll no doubt have one by November.
Fred, what are the veneers on that? Looks perfect to me.
Riser is micarta & bocote, myrtle limb veneers.
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Don't worry Izzy, I'll no doubt have one by November.
Still won't have my new tip by then but who knows, I may be toting a toelke of my own.
QuoteOriginally posted by Biathlonman:
Don't worry Izzy, I'll no doubt have one by November.
Still won't have my new tip by then but who knows, I may be toting a toelke of my own.
2-Piece bow bolt, 54" would break down into a fantastic backpacking bow.
Even a 56" 2 piece would likely be shorter then my 30" bop arrows.
I've talked to Dan about one of these. A Pika is likely going to be my first custom made bow, hopefully early next year. :campfire:
Here's a short video of my pika. After several months of shooting this little bow I was a bit disappointed. I put the bow down and started shooting my other bows. I kept looking at my pika because I really liked it. I put it down because my groups started to open up a lot. I figured it couldn't be that bad. Well I called Dan Toelke. He asked couple questions. He's a very nice guy. I told him what was going on. Turns out the nock point can twist. It is meant for tuning. When you find the sweet spot, place a dab of super glue. After I did that voila! I'm backed to shooting my pika again. It's the bow that stays out. Just saying.
http://youtu.be/8YrBxRQfgFw
Well all this Pika this,Pika that,talk has stirred up my intrest.Called Dan today,mine should be here middle next month.Heck that alone is impressive!
Mine is shipping this wk!!!!!
I'm jealous of you guys! I've been patiently trying to sell a couple bows (been a couple weeks but feel like an eternity!) so I can call Dan back and tell him to start building! Please keep posting on when you guys get them and what you think about them. I'm on the fence with a Pika or Lynx.
If you go Lynx, go 60" recurve limbs. The two I've tried are the smoothest bows I've ever tried and that's a bunch. Pika vs. LYNX is kinda opposite ends of the spectrum. Split the difference and get a chinook! Lol
Brad, I had Dan retiller that takedown SS of yours to 3 under and drop the # to 53@30 and boy is it ever smooth. That being said, I still favor my Super D for some odd reason over all the others in the stable. If he made a Pika at 60 or 62", I may have to move some inventory!
Any more thoughts on the Pika?
I'm liking my 54" 40# Pika that Dan made me to help with my shoulder rehab sooo much that I just traded my bowbolt Griffin for a bowbolt Pika 54" @45#. Bow is already in the mail from Dan...tippit
QuoteOriginally posted by tippit:
I'm liking my 54" 40# Pika that Dan made me to help with my shoulder rehab sooo much that I just traded my bowbolt Griffin for a bowbolt Pika 54" @45#. Bow is already in the mail from Dan...tippit
:clapper:
sounds like you ended up with the RH twin of the one I got from him last week. I'm loving mine and will have my review up soon.
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Brad, here's a few teaser pics to nudge you in that direction when you're ready.... :bigsmyl:
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v76/quarteraway/image_zpsowhlq3g2.jpeg) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/quarteraway/media/image_zpsowhlq3g2.jpeg.html)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v76/quarteraway/image_zpstxhipmen.jpeg) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/quarteraway/media/image_zpstxhipmen.jpeg.html)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v76/quarteraway/image_zpsa0zguoip.jpeg) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/quarteraway/media/image_zpsa0zguoip.jpeg.html)
WOW ! It's beautiful, what is the wood ?
Said Myrtle on page 2...
hitman, the riser is micarta and bocote and the limb veneers are myrtle as Brad said.
That's the prettiest myrtle I've ever seen. That's a keeper
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That's the prettiest myrtle I've ever seen. That's a keeper
don't speak too soon, I haven't posted pics of mine yet! :bigsmyl: :biglaugh:
Crap...now I have to make a trip to Ronan.
Dan is the Man!
QuoteOriginally posted by 1/4 away:
hitman, the riser is micarta and bocote and the limb veneers are myrtle as Brad said.
Thanks ;)
My nightmare has begun! My pika came in the mail yesterday and wife is making me wait til Christmas day to open it. The worst part is somehow I've tweaked my bow shoulder and can barely hold a bow much less draw it....
QuoteOriginally posted by BowArkie:
My nightmare has begun! My pika came in the mail yesterday and wife is making me wait til Christmas day to open it. The worst part is somehow I've tweaked my bow shoulder and can barely hold a bow much less draw it....
Wow, that's a whole lot of bad... at least the Pika has arrived@
Don't worry, just send it to me and I'll check it out for you and make sure everything is OK.
QuoteOriginally posted by Biathlonman:
Don't worry, just send it to me and I'll check it out for you and make sure everything is OK.
HA!! Proly be best to for my shoulder cause I know I'm not gonna wait for it to heal completely before I start slinging arrows with it!
I ordered one too! I'm a weak man