Well guys, I finally got my carbons and I have decided I want to try single bevels out this fall. Screw ins would be preferred but it seems most single bevels are glue on. Either way I am looking to get around 200 grains up front with BH and inserts combined. As always I am looking for the best I can get for the least amount of money so the super high end stuff is probably out of my reach.
What do you guys think?
zwickey no mercy with screw ins is 165. In the grand scheme of things 35 grains is not much and easily added with weights or a washer.
I haven't played with the no mercys yet but do have some signed before they first came out. Over the years I've noticed I've had issues with some of the adapters in zwickeys getting them true. I can't say the NM fall in that boat or not but I wouldn't look past them. I have yet to hunt with something other than an eskimo!
Grizzly broadheads come in a variety of weights. You should be able to get 200gr with the right combination of adapters and broadheads. They cost about half of what some of the high end heads go for. Just be prepared to sharpen them.
Abowyer Brown Bear Toughest head I have ever used, is a sponsor here, makes a heck of a blood trail.
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I'm no expert at putting a good edge on a real rough BH but I seem to be able to keep one honed up. (anyone have some tips?) that being said a sharp out of the box BH is something I would be willing to pay a little extra for.
QuoteOriginally posted by AkDan:
I have yet to hunt with something other than an eskimo!
I have a buddy who hunts with woodies. He pulls about 40# with 5/16 shafts and he uses 125 grain eskimos. He has killed more deer with that set up than I have with a gun. He is who got me into trad hunting. What kind of setup do you use?
Cutthorats by RMSG. BEST
Abowyer makes a Screw on 250g Brown Bear in Carbon or Stainless. Excellent, top notch broadhead.
Carbon Steel Screw in Brown Bear (http://www.abowyer.com/abowyer_carbon_screw_on_brown_bear.html)
I've killed deer with cutthroats and helix broadheads. Both worked great. But if I were to choose one, the cutthroats are the easiest broadhead to sharpen that I've used. And they're bomb proof. I'd recomend you give them a try.
I tried the Badger broadheads this year. They shoot GREAT out of all my bows. Very tough heads as well.
RMSG cutthroats! I haven't killed with one yet but they the best imo. They are a one piece screw in at 200 grains. I always hated gluing inserts into grizzlies. Fairly easy to sharpen too.
I have only used the Grizzly Kodiaks and they mounted easily (glue on), balance spun perfect, sharpened easy enough, held their edge and went through the shoulder and ribs of a large bear this year. Great blood trail but did not do an autopsy on carcass to see lungs, heart, etc and damage caused. You wont be disappointed.
Big Jim's will glue inserts into a Grizzly free of charge. Just find a weight/adapter combination that suits you. Mine are 185 grain heads with 75 grain steel adapter (I highly recommend using steel over aluminum).
The cutthroat comes as a screw in, but you're gonna pay double.
I love Abowyer Boneheads and Brown Bears with their titanium inserts. excellent heads.
My hunting buddy uses the cutthroats and they too are a great head.
cant go wrong with either.
I'm a 3 blade guy But a friend just killed a black bear with a 200 grain Cutthroat and he was so impressed he gave me one to try. I modified an old Razor Edge jig and got that head extremely sharp in a short time. My next deer may fall to it as it is in my quiver with my 200 grain Razorcaps,
Tuff Heads are the best single bevel heads available, IMHO.
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I took this elk with a Abowyer Brown Bear head this year and had good results. Pass through at 43 yards and still shaving sharp. My buddy on the hunt was using the Tuff Heads and they look great and are made well. I like the Abowyer because of the steel seems to take and keep a shaving sharp edge. But in all honesty I could have killed that elk with any head, its all where you put em.
Mike
For the quality, quantity and price its hard to beat a Grizzly broadhead.
Gilbert
"Cutthorats by RMSG. BEST"
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QuoteOriginally posted by Crested Finger:
I'm no expert at putting a good edge on a real rough BH but I seem to be able to keep one honed up. (anyone have some tips?) that being said a sharp out of the box BH is something I would be willing to pay a little extra for.
There is no broadhead sharper out of the box than a German Kinetic, but it is not a single bevel head!
Bisch
I have used grizzlies for the last 4 seasons and shot 5 deer with them. Great head and a bargain for what you get. You do have to sharpen them but it can be done with a little know how. There is countless pages on tradgang how to sharpen broadheads, it's how I learned. As stated before there are a lot of options when it comes to weight and adapters to find just the right one for your setup. They are also made by some great folks!
Gabe
Abowyers are hunt ready out of the box. presharpened and dipped in wax to keep the edge until use.
In my opinion...if you are going to use a solid blade broadhead...how sharp it is out of box should not be the only qualifier.... How sharp YOU can get it when it needs to be sharpened and then how much confidence you have in it after the shot is much more important.
I am guessing all of these heads mentioned...Abowyer, Grizzly, Tusker are similar in price, toughness, and results. Anyone that puts it in the right spot is going to have outstanding results....
keep em sharp,
ron herman
I highly recommend the Helix! They are a little on the pricey side but definitely worth it for a wide or cutting diameter and incredible durability. I shoot the 150 grain which are roughly 1-3/8" I'll be using these on hogs this year for better penetration and plan to use them next year for elk as well I've been very impressed.
QuoteOriginally posted by Crested Finger:
I'm no expert at putting a good edge on a real rough BH but I seem to be able to keep one honed up. (anyone have some tips?) that being said a sharp out of the box BH is something I would be willing to pay a little extra for.
Check out this link If you would like to learn how to get your broadheads "Hair Popping sharp"...
http://www.probowsociety.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=2856
agree with Mike's link....
crested finger,
I've shot eskimos for the last 25 years. Out of recurves and longbows and of course when I first started with wheels.
They have served me well from grouse to grizzlies, sheep, moose, bou, deer, turkeys, squirrels, hares, fox....I just cant find myself to switch to something that hasn't failed.
I've shot wood as well that hole time. A 11/32 eskimo on a barrel tapered ash shaft is by far my best penetrating set up. If you can get past the lip on the back of the head...stinks for some targets, rocks on game!
Badgers get my vote. Easily the toughest and most accurate single bevel I have ever seen. A sponsor on here as well.
QuoteOriginally posted by Rock 'N Bow:
Grizzly broadheads come in a variety of weights. You should be able to get 200gr with the right combination of adapters and broadheads. They cost about half of what some of the high end heads go for. Just be prepared to sharpen them.
I'll second the Grizzly recommendation...
We have both Tusker screw in single bevel and No Mercy screw in single bevel heads in stock. The Tuskers come in a wide variety of weights and styles.
Tusker Broadheads at Braveheart Archery (http://www.braveheartarchery.us/tusker_broadheads.htm)
Zwickey Broadheads at Braveheart Archery (http://www.braveheartarchery.us/zwicky_broadheads.htm)
Tuskers have excellent steel that really holds an edge well. In my tests, it was one of the few broadheads that was still sharp enough to cut tissue after going through cow shoulder blades.
I don't think you're going to be able to beat the quality vs the price vs the warranty vs the guys that sell them, of the Cutthroat broadheads! Absolutely the easiest to sharpen broadheads I've ever encountered too!
Another vote for the Cutthroat. I use a 250 grain head
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Crested Finger, check your PM's
do any sponsors sell aluminum oxide powder for stropping?
QuoteOriginally posted by Tajue17:
do any sponsors sell aluminum oxide powder for stropping?
Tuffhead is a sponsor, and sells that product, along with many other quality products.
I'm shooting Grizzly Kodiaks and continue to be impressed by them. Tuffheads, Abowyers and the Cutthroat are also very good. Pick the one you like.
Ace Super Express are 200gr and priced right. They kill deer quickly for me.
Werewolf broadheads are super. on my doe this year the arrow didn't even slow down on the pass thru; on the buck I hit bone and was left looking at the nock and about 1" of feathers on my side. Blood trail a blind man could have followed ... Easy to sharpen on the KME
Another vote for Abowyer heads.
hey guys thanks for all the great feed back. I have a lot to look at now and hopefully with some practice I will finally get my sharpening skills down pat.
Do those badger BH really negate wind planing? looks nifty
I've been using grizzlies since the mid 80's and they are great. If you want a pre sharpened head go with the Abowyers
For one of the very best single bevel broad head I would go with the Tuff Head They are a advertiser on Trad-Gand. Check them out and all of the other great products that they offer.
They also have a very knowledgeable customer service department if you have any questions. Good people building a great product.
Lotsa' good single bevels available. I happen to be a big fan of the Abowyer brown bears.