This week myself and several friends had stands stolen both hang on and ladder type, all were cable locked also several cameras , all in different locations. I know Im not alone to experience the scourge of the stand stealing maggots ! Has anyone ever attempted a gps tracking device installed in to stands ? HELP any thoughts Thanks
i think some C4 packed in the frame with a small det would be better served!- swines!!!
That stinks! There seems like not even the woods is safe from vandals anymore! Sorry that happened to you. Hopefully they get caught. I lost a whole set up a few years back from my friends property! It sucks!
I had two stands taken last year. it sucks and really puts a damper on hunting.
I've seen little GPS tags that you can put on your keys. It's an idea but you would really have to hide them on the stand or camera so that they're not seen and taken off.
Here's one I've seen for keys.
https://www.thetrackr.com/bravo/lost-keys?utm_source=google&utm_medium=Bravo_Search_LostKeys_cpc&utm_campaign=Bravo_Search_LostKeys&gclid=CjwKEAjwzJexBRCa_pGo8IK0ilASJABfGldbhsAzs- I8KhnKLyRGMupbz8Bl-HiDbtkiXSX50hGsTBoCdWvw_wcB (https://www.thetrackr.com/bravo/lost-keys?utm_source=google&utm_medium=Bravo_Search_LostKeys_cpc&utm_campaign=Bravo_Search_LostKeys&gclid=CjwKEAjwzJexBRCa_pGo8IK0ilASJABfGldbhsAzs-I8KhnKLyRGMupbz8Bl-HiDbtkiXSX50hGsTBoCdWvw_wcB)
my fellow massachusetts hunter,,, its all part of hunting here I had 3 stolen myself, had someone crap at the bottom of my ladders, found amonia,bleach, and fabric softner bottles at my stands, have a collection of notes the best one threatening to put a broadhead up my A%^ if I don't leave, and who knows what else that I never noticed,,,,, thank you Massachusetts!
anyway instead of using the cameras to watch for deer in Mass its highly encouraged to instead put the camera across from the stands and high up a tree and using a wooden triangle behind the camera pan it down to the bottom of the tree,,, now if stand ever goes missing climb up pull card and then hunt the person who robbed you.
I like the GPS tracker tags idea myself. You could put a small slit in the seat and hide it in there. Perhaps glue them into the camera frame and cover with tape to conceal.
public land?
The only time I would place a stand on public land is if Id expect never to get it back.
Too many idiots out there
I electrify my stands like electric fence. Lights their ass up. I have a buried battery that is charged by solar power and wire ran underground. So far it has worked well. I have a remote that turns it off so I can get in my stand. Turn it back on when I leave. I use it for my ladder stands. I have had too many stolen.
That stinks. That is why I went with lightweight ladder stands that weigh around 35 lbs. I put them on one shoulder and bow in the other hand. Has worked pretty well. I don't leave the area without taking them with me. It is a pain but have not had to worry about stolen stands. Ken
People are rude that's all there is to it. Last year I set up a ground blind and hunted that evening. About one hour before dark here comes an idiot with a crossbow. I guess he thought he was stalking because he was walking very slowly, across the middle of an open crp field???? Anyway I whistled at the dude and he waved. He then proceed to circle my position, cross over private property, re-enter and then set up 40 yards upwind of me. I finally stood up and said you're kidding me right???? And his reply was, "you cant set up next to someones blind and then expect that person not to hunt it." He had a tree stand up a small tree and I was totally unaware of it. Now when I was a kid I was taught if someone was hunting a spot, even if it was your best spot, you move on. You certainly don't set up 40 yards upwind of the person???? I was so pissed, I finally left and walked to the road. I passed his stuck and saw that he was from the area. I had a few thoughts about arrows, broadheads and steelbelted tires.... but I thought better of it. Anyways, I have come to expect that kind of behavior from a lot of folks on public land. And what I have noticed is that a lot of times the worst offenders are the local guys. The drive their four wheelers on restricted roads, liter, and can be down right rude. Most of the out of state hunters I bump into are usually pretty well manner and I've never had a problem with them. I guess a few of the local boys think they own the damn woods - unfortunately to include stands and cameras. Sad times we are living in.
Theft is a Big problem in Michigan . On public and privet lands . I'm now using cheap ladder stands $ 50.00 from Manards . I just can't justifie loosing a $300.00 stand or camera . In fact I quite using my cameras !
In AZ anything left on public land after 24 hours is considerd abandoned. So I never leave stands ,blinds or cameras out. The sheriff's office, the game and fish and forest service will confiscate them as well.though inam sure alot of the disappearances are people takeing them.
Would you expect to find a $100 bill there a few days after stapeling it to a tree?
On public land in pa, I set my hang ons up in the dark, took them down at lunch, moved to another area and reset for the evening watch, took them down and went home.
To do less was an instant invitation to buy a different stand...
Stands are expensive...
Left a few up for a few days on very private land...but no more.
Tight times make for loose morals. People are "entitlement" oriented these days and figure anything anyone else has, they should also have...redistribution of wealth perhaps?
The state's I'm aware of allow portable, non-tree damaging stands. The stand must have the owner's name and address. The stand must be removed within a certain number of days after the season. The owner is NOT guaranteed that no one will not set up next to them.
At a public WMA early in my career we had a heck of a bonfire at the end of every season fueled by dozens of stands that were left behind. In those days (early 80's) they were mostly home-made stands.
I don't hunt public lands. I've had one stand stolen off private land (a ladder). I discovered it opening morning when I arrived in the dark to put my elderly uncle in the stand just to observe the morning -- he wasn't hunting. We had just moved there and I think someone thought we were trespassing. I made it clear to neighbors that I didn't appreciate it. Haven't had a problem since.
Opps wrong post.
I have been lucky. I had one stand taken by a young guy who thought it was on the property he had access to. He readily admitted he took it, and when I showed him the actual property line, he immediately returned it. A thief is a low rent SOB on his best day.
As for those who have received threats, that is the reason Gaston always goes hunting with me.
I would leave a small weatherproof note on all my stands that states this stand has a GPS device attached and can be tracked, even if you don't have the GPS unit attached it might make them think twice before taking the stand.
I have a friend that says he tack welded razor blades in certain areas on a stand after having one stolen. He said that he later found a blood trail leading away from the stand.
I like the electrified idea above.
QuoteOriginally posted by fnshtr:
I have a friend that says he tack welded razor blades in certain areas on a stand after having one stolen. He said that he later found a blood trail leading away from the stand.
I like the electrified idea above.
Your friend could be prosecuted. Not a good idea.
I've been there. Everything I've had taken was on private land. Burns me up. Especially when you think you know who did it and can't prove it.
I always use climbing sticks for the first 6ft or so, then screw in steps the rest of the way (sometimes I use just the climbing sticks all the way). I also hang my stands to be out of view of people as much as deer. I hunt private land too and have had mine stolen.
QuoteOriginally posted by reddogge:
QuoteOriginally posted by fnshtr:
I have a friend that says he tack welded razor blades in certain areas on a stand after having one stolen. He said that he later found a blood trail leading away from the stand.
I like the electrified idea above.
Your friend could be prosecuted. Not a good idea. [/b]
I agree! Very bad idea to do something like this even in WVA:)
Just remember booby trapping anything (electric, razors) is totally illegal and you will open yourself up to serious civil lawsuits. Sorry but a stand, camera or stick is not worth it.
I think the people who manufacture the stand should step up and install gps tracking chips into the stands that are not visible. I do understand that by so doing they may hurt sales, because hunters would not need to purchase new stands to replace stolen ones? Maybe thats why we have not seen this technology to date.To those who live in states where you must take stands down , when do you put them up where i live hunting is a 365 commitment where stands are installed long before the season as are cameras?
I personally lost two stands in one year and between three of us hunting the area we lost around six. The police finally caught the guy and he had a storage unit full of tree stands that he had stole from several people and he was selling them on-line and at flee markets. Of course the police kept them because none of the stands were marked with our names and address. This is why I hunt almost exclusively from a climber anymore.
The problem with GPS is that it requires some sort of power source to keep them active long term. I was talking to a company that was building them for bikes and motorcycles to prevent theft. I informed them about treestands and trail cameras. They were very interested however the power source was the issue. I also asked for an app that would communicate to my cell phone and alert me if the treestand moved plus or minus distance. It just may happen.
I would pay $100 or more for something like this just to have the police show up and tell the jerk to go out to their garage and give back the treestand....and oh by the way you are arrested for theft.
Ron
I hope I didn't give anyone the idea that I agreed with what my friend SAID he done with the razor blades. I don't. I mentioned it only because of the nature of this thread. Also, if you have ever considered taking something that is not yours, to remind you that there ARE consequences.
I should also say, the guy that told me he done that is more of an aqaintence (sp?) than a "friend".
Feel your pain...some jerk stole my 10 year old grandsons Bushnell trail cam off of our private archery club land this summer. Really sucks when that crap happens!
After having a few stolen, both public, and private land, all were locked in with chain an lock. I looked for something that would be more difficult to cut, found some very heavy cables with lock attached at a place that sells locks for motorcycles, and ATV's. The ones I got are 1" in diameter. To make them less visible, I make some sleeves out of camo spandex and put the cables and locks through the sleeves. This is the first year trying them :thumbsup: so far!
Thanks,
It's a very sad state we are in when the criminals can and do get away with just about anything.