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Title: V2 taper tool
Post by: kat on October 09, 2015, 03:33:00 PM
I decided to start shooting woodies, so I bought a v2 taper tool from 3 rivers. My problem was that after staining, and sealing with a couple coats, the shafts wouldn't fit in the guide.
The guides are about +.005" over 11/32. The problem is the shafts are +.007".
I have only tried this on one doz. sitka spruce shafts.
For those who have used this tool, is this normal, or am I doing something wrong?
Title: Re: V2 taper tool
Post by: darin putman on October 09, 2015, 06:52:00 PM
I use it on surewoods and after finishing if I need to retaper I use the 23/64 guide. I use reparrow to fix some broken woodies and always order them 23/64 so they are easier to match to my finished shafts and lots of times I taper them with no guide on the v2. It is just a guide and I have no trouble keeping tapers straight without one, I just take my time but prefer to use when able.
Title: Re: V2 taper tool
Post by: ChiefStingingArrow on October 09, 2015, 07:37:00 PM
I have had the same problem on the last two batches of arrows....in which i had coated them 4 times.... I had coated a batch of arrows two times and had no problems.
Title: Re: V2 taper tool
Post by: Bud B. on October 09, 2015, 08:15:00 PM
Yeah, less dips or coats, or taper before dipping/coating.
Title: Re: V2 taper tool
Post by: Shawn Rackley on October 09, 2015, 09:19:00 PM
I got one, was never satisfied. Even after they sent another. I just stick to the cheapy plastic throw away. Honestly wish I would just sent it back for a refund. But was to lazy too. Lol
Title: Re: V2 taper tool
Post by: akbowbender on October 10, 2015, 12:10:00 AM
I like mine. I just do my tapers before sealing.
Title: Re: V2 taper tool
Post by: kat on October 10, 2015, 09:33:00 AM
I found that if I wrap the finished arrow with scotch tape a couple of turns, and use the 23/64" guide, it takes up the slop. Kind of a pain, but I do like the way the tool cuts.
I would taper before finishing, but was told that the hot melt doesn't bond as well to the lacquer as it does the raw wood.
Title: Re: V2 taper tool
Post by: Bud B. on October 10, 2015, 10:43:00 AM
Scrape the finish off the point before putting points on, or, use two part epoxy. You could also sand (scuff up) the tapers a little to help with bonding. I use hot melt and rarely have any problems (I attribute it to not cleaning the inside of the point well enough - oil). When I use two part epoxy I have never had a point release from the taper.
Title: Re: V2 taper tool
Post by: kat on October 10, 2015, 11:05:00 AM
Thanks Bud- That will sure make life easier.
Title: Re: V2 taper tool
Post by: ron w on October 10, 2015, 07:04:00 PM
I taper first then finish.......
Title: Re: V2 taper tool
Post by: Bud B. on October 10, 2015, 07:32:00 PM
Heat will still make the two part epoxy release, just need a little more. Be careful not to overheat, though.
Title: Re: V2 taper tool
Post by: The Whittler on October 10, 2015, 08:52:00 PM
When I do wood I make sure they are straight then I taper. After that I stain and paint.

I never put stain or paint on my tapers so the glue bonds real good on bare wood.
Title: Re: V2 taper tool
Post by: frassettor on October 11, 2015, 06:25:00 PM
I made that mistake to. I have the same taper tool. I will taper before I stain/seal but I used the next size up  accommodate the larger size due to the thickness of the poly
Title: Re: V2 taper tool
Post by: Veneficus on October 12, 2015, 10:49:00 AM
Kat,
It isnt the taper tool thats the issue. It is the arrow shafts.
Sitka spruce are slightly oversized so you need to sand them before they fit in the 11/32 guide.
The burnished shafts 3 rivers sells will fit exactly in the guide.
If you use a think coat of sealer,they wont fit either. So like others said taper before you stain and finish.
Use the 23/64 guide if it doesnt fit. I have never had an issue with wobbley points using a bigger guide.
I have made thousands of arrows with this tool. I used to sell arrows.
Just my .02