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Title: Wood arrows and high performance bows
Post by: Wheels2 on September 27, 2015, 01:59:00 PM
I am shooting a Morrison 17" XD riser and a set of Border Hex 6.5 medium limbs.  52# @28"  The riser is past center so I can adjust centershot with different thickness of strike pad.
Currently shooting 29" Easton Aftemaths in .400 with 125 tips.  Bare shaft shows just a tad stiff.  Easton XX75 2216 flies well but nose dives indicating a nocking point adjustment is needed.
I am looking at trying woods on this rig.  Anyone shoot something close that can suggest a spine?
What finished arrow weight are you getting?
Thanks,
Bill
Title: Re: Wood arrows and high performance bows
Post by: Wheels2 on September 27, 2015, 02:05:00 PM
Looking to stay with 29" shaft and 125 tip
Title: Re: Wood arrows and high performance bows
Post by: Looper on September 27, 2015, 03:45:00 PM
Assuming you draw 28", I suspect you'd need around a 75-80# spine. I'd suggest ordering a test kit from Surewood to know for sure.

Weight wise, it'll really depend on the specific shafts, but I'd say you'll be in the 550-600 range.
Title: Re: Wood arrows and high performance bows
Post by: Biathlonman on September 27, 2015, 03:51:00 PM
I'm guessing 80-85 or 85-90.  29" .400 with 125 are a darn stiff arrow.
Title: Re: Wood arrows and high performance bows
Post by: Wheels2 on September 27, 2015, 04:13:00 PM
Trying to decide on woods or just pick up some aluminums....
Tired of carbons.  Like the speed, but just not the same.
Title: Re: Wood arrows and high performance bows
Post by: Wheels2 on September 27, 2015, 04:15:00 PM
Are the Surewood test packs finished or will they need coated?
Title: Re: Wood arrows and high performance bows
Post by: Mike Mongelli on September 27, 2015, 04:41:00 PM
No, they are not finished.  I use gloss Min-Wax wipe on poly.
Title: Re: Wood arrows and high performance bows
Post by: Hud on September 28, 2015, 03:28:00 AM
Doug fir, Spruce and Port Orford Cedar. DF is a little heavier than the other two. I don't shoot your bows, but I would add 5 lbs for center shot, 5-10 lbs for High Performance, 5 lbs for each 25 grain increase up front (point wt) over 145 gr. and 5 lbs if you cut them over 28". I think I would start with 70-75 or 75-80 lb, tapered shafts with 160 gr.field points.
Title: Re: Wood arrows and high performance bows
Post by: MnFn on September 28, 2015, 10:23:00 AM
I have two different set-ups.

53# Blacktail VL Elite,  28.75"  63/64# Sitka spruce (Paul Jalong).  I think the 125 grain head would work as well but I have been using a little heavier head, 160 Stos.  Weight was about 530, I think.

55# Tall Tines recurve,  29"  70/75 Surewoods (Snags) with 160 grain Stos. I think these weighed a little over 600 grains.

It seems for me an arrow about 10/15 lbs of spine more than the bow weight seems to be a good starting point.
Title: Re: Wood arrows and high performance bows
Post by: cedar on September 28, 2015, 10:52:00 AM
65-70 or 70-75 with 29" arrow and 125 gr point.
Title: Re: Wood arrows and high performance bows
Post by: Wheels2 on September 28, 2015, 10:53:00 AM
I have an email pending to Tommy at RMS.  I expect to hear back letter today.
Not crazy about the 23/64" shafts but no other options for my likely spine.
Title: Re: Wood arrows and high performance bows
Post by: Jakeemt on September 28, 2015, 01:56:00 PM
Not necessarily partner. Naturally you can adjust the center shot of you bow. So instead of past center build it out to center or even a little before.

Jake
Title: Re: Wood arrows and high performance bows
Post by: Sixby on September 28, 2015, 02:40:00 PM
Every bow shoots differently even same performance levels and weights so you need to play around some. I can easily shoot 2020 xx78s or 75s out of my 52 lb. Probably equate to 75 to 80 lb woods.

God bless, Steve
Title: Re: Wood arrows and high performance bows
Post by: cedar on September 30, 2015, 11:30:00 PM
If you want to go with 11/32" arrows, Douglas Fir from Surewood Shafts would be your best choice.  Check their website for info.
Title: Re: Wood arrows and high performance bows
Post by: Steelhead on October 01, 2015, 01:49:00 AM
I think 75-80 sounds pretty good as well with a 29 inch arrow and 28 inch draw length,high performance string,125 grain point and the  very high performance Hex 6.5 recurve limb.

The premium grade Surewood Douglas Fir shaft would be a good choice.
Title: Re: Wood arrows and high performance bows
Post by: COMPOUNDLESS IN CONCRETE on October 01, 2015, 06:19:00 AM
QuoteOriginally posted by Wheels2:
Trying to decide on woods or just pick up some aluminums....
Tired of carbons.  Like the speed, but just not the same.
I tried wood arrows this summer and wasn't thrilled with them.  I'm back with 2216's now and aluminum is probably where I'll stay.
Title: Re: Wood arrows and high performance bows
Post by: monterey on October 01, 2015, 02:53:00 PM
When I played around with wheel bows in the mid '70's, I shot woodies at 75 to 80 spine.  If the bow you describe has the broad range of adjustment of center shot that is found on the wheel bows you can probably tune just about any stiff wood arrow to shoot well.