Thanks for your help on this!
Bear said between 7" and 8".I think most people would lean toward the high side of that range.
Thanks, Jim!
Question what can the 2015 bow do that the Bear K cannot do???? meaning,speed,vibration,noise,smoothness of draw,materials used,cast a heavy arrow,,just asking are all the new bows better than the old bows of hunting pass,do new bows last longer,,,,,,,
Just got a tundra brown bear with a E
Reason just shot a tundra brown bear 600 LBS average weight up here,with 2015 Eagle Wing Frontier 45# at my draw and arrow went through and stuck pretty deep in the tundra ,the material in Steves bow do seem to cast arrows better we have wait for Steve post here I believe there is a lam of carbon in the frontier I am shooting German K broad head with 2019 arrow,,
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Joe,
I would have to guess that the materials used today are far superior to those from yesteryear. That said, I purchased this bow for nostalgic reasons. I really enjoy my newer bows. They shoot great but even with better materials, new bows are still made mostly of wood and can fail just like the old ones.
I HAVEN A pretty bear bow being made from a clone bear builder she going be a nice looking bow ..
Longbow Fanatic "I would have to guess that the materials used today are far superior to those from yesteryear. That said, I purchased this bow for nostalgic reasons. I really enjoy my newer bows. They shoot great but even with better materials, new bows are still made mostly of wood and can fail just like the old ones."
Actually that isn't true in my experience. It is hard to argue with all those 40 and 50 year old bows all made with maple limbs that are still shooting today. I have broken two "modern bows" but have a fair collection of classics that have held up even with fast flite strings...which they are not supposed to be able to handle. Gordon glass has been used in trad bows for decades and is still the premier glass supplier according to the bowyers who have made me custom bows.
Seems all bowyers these days will use bamboo for limb cores but that is not new. Howard Hill used bamboo in his bows 60 years ago. I guess carbon being used in bow limbs is new but I haven't found it to make a great difference in performance in my bows...a few FPS I suppose but not worth the cost in my opinion.
As far a your '65 Kodiak is concerned...it will shoot right alongside the best custom made today if set up properly. I've used Fast Flite on all my old Bear Bows by padding the loops with Dacron. Occasionally I replace the limb tips with phenolic but not always. I'm not advocating you do that but it is something I've done for years and the bows show no ill effects. Go with 8" for your brace height and twist up and down a bit from there...mine shoot well for me at 8 1/4"..good luck
Hey joe congrats on the bear. And with the frontier 66. Steve builds. A great bow. How far was the shot. . And how far did he go
QuoteOriginally posted by Pointer:
Longbow Fanatic "I would have to guess that the materials used today are far superior to those from yesteryear. That said, I purchased this bow for nostalgic reasons. I really enjoy my newer bows. They shoot great but even with better materials, new bows are still made mostly of wood and can fail just like the old ones."
Actually that isn't true in my experience. It is hard to argue with all those 40 and 50 year old bows all made with maple limbs that are still shooting today. I have broken two "modern bows" but have a fair collection of classics that have held up even with fast flite strings...which they are not supposed to be able to handle. Gordon glass has been used in trad bows for decades and is still the premier glass supplier according to the bowyers who have made me custom bows.
Seems all bowyers these days will use bamboo for limb cores but that is not new. Howard Hill used bamboo in his bows 60 years ago. I guess carbon being used in bow limbs is new but I haven't found it to make a great difference in performance in my bows...a few FPS I suppose but not worth the cost in my opinion.
As far a your '65 Kodiak is concerned...it will shoot right alongside the best custom made today if set up properly. I've used Fast Flite on all my old Bear Bows by padding the loops with Dacron. Occasionally I replace the limb tips with phenolic but not always. I'm not advocating you do that but it is something I've done for years and the bows show no ill effects. Go with 8" for your brace height and twist up and down a bit from there...mine shoot well for me at 8 1/4"..good luck
Clearly you have more knowledge in this area, so I will yield to your opinion. I was only following the notion that carbon, glues, fiberglass laying techniques, foam cores... would be better today. It only stands to reason. Cars are faster, more efficient and safer today, so I presumed the same would be true in bow building technology. Thanks for your information and advice.
About 20 yards the shot was he was sleeping behind log the bear never seen or heard me he got up like a bee bit him and lost all muscle control and folded like a zapped bug on bug light,I think it was the large sharp broad head and the fact he did NOT know he was shot he never seem me he died very peacefully the broad head took top heart out left lung never hit any ribs he bleed out very fast .The Frontier to was a big factor as the Caribou I shot and the herd never heard the bow noise so the bear or caribou were not alarmed that a big factor a lot of people over look in buying a bow I always look for a bowS that are not noisy .Trad longbow that the string never hits the limbs seem to be best for making less noise..
Steve has a real winner with this Frontier riser and limb design . I am buying and extra one perhaps about 5 more pounds my bow 1/2 inch short of 70 inches the pull is so nice at that long length no trees up here so length is really not a factor hitting anything. My grammar very bad so sorry....
I just set up my "new" 1965 Kodiak a couple weeks ago. Seems to shoot nice at 8 1/4 from deepest part of the grip.
Thanks, Jared!